Where to get this fuel cap online?

[wandering]

Hi

 

i dropped the cap lid to my fuel tank into the canal and need to buy a new one. However when I the type fuel cap narrowboat into Google, I get a whole plethora of caps making me unsure which is correct for me. 
 

I attached an image of what I mean. What should I be looking for? The thing I dropped looked like a huge nut? The hole is 4mm long. 
 

 

Edited April 15, 2023 by wandering

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

I take it you ain’t got a magnet?

Ask your neighbours if they can lend one if you ain’t , you might find it easier to finish out than you think. 
 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

11 minutes ago, wandering said:

Hi

 

i dropped the cap lid to my fuel tank into the canal and need to buy a new one. However when I the type fuel cap narrowboat into Google, I get a whole plethora of caps making me unsure which is correct for me. 
 

I attached an image of what I mean. What should I be looking for? The thing I dropped looked like a huge nut? The hole is 4mm long. 
 

 

 

Look like the standard 'pipe fitting' available from most 'construction' ' Heavy duty pipe-plumbing sort of companies.

 

 

Did it look like this ?

 

 

 

Edited April 15, 2023 by Alan de Enfield

[alan_fincher]

4 minutes ago, wandering said:

The hole is 4mm long.

 

What does this mean?

 

4mm  is insignificant compared to a typical diesel filler.

[Tony Brooks]

It will be an ordinary BSP iron plumbers female cap. You might have to settle for a round one. I think a 1.5" BSP cap

Edited April 15, 2023 by Tony Brooks

[magnetman]

Get a stainless steel  or plastic one and don't drop it. 

 

The way to avoid dropping it each time you interact with it you reset your brain to think "do not drop this" and you won't drop it. 

 

Same with windlasses. 

 

plastic one 

 

https://www.plasticpipeshop.co.uk/1-12-Threaded-End-Cap-cw-EPDM-Seal_p_971.html

 

 

Stainless 

 

https://www.nero.co.uk/Catalogue/Fittings/Threaded-150lb-Fittings/BSP/Hexagon-Cap

[Tracy D'arth]

 1 1/2" BSP iron cap, hex    part # S0395  on  here  https://www.jtmplumbing.co.uk/malleable-galvanised-pipe-fittings-brackets-c545/malleable-fittings-c830/jtm-pipeline-black-malleable-hexagonal-cap-p12179/s12180?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=jtm-pipeline-black-malleable-hexagonal-cap-size-1-2-quot-size-1-size-1-2-s0391&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&cid=GBP&glCurrency=GBP&glCountry=GB&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlumhBhClARIsABO6p-zpjWtIrIxr9IA8m35Yw2TuS4WJNHEGRH1JkQgLajW3MGHn0-BzJyoaAjfyEALw_wcB

 

 

OR  here    https://pipedreamfittings.com/product/hexagon-cap-black-malleable-iron/     look for 1 1/2" BSP.

 

You can get galvanised ones and in stainless steel too!

[magnetman]

Not sure if the BS scheme would allow plastic to be fair but the seal is quite nice to have. 

[Alan de Enfield]

7 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Not sure if the BS scheme would allow plastic to be fair but the seal is quite nice to have. 

 

 

They do take some feeding tho'

 

 

[magnetman]

There is something fishy about this. 

[BEngo]

Before rushing off to a plumbers merchant, measure the *inside* diameter of the filler pipe.  It will probably be 1 1/2  inches, but it may be 2 inches. 

 

Then go somewhere like Plumb Center or online to BES and ask for a 1 1/2 or 2 inch ( as measured)  BSP hex cap.  

 

N

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

If it’s made of steel why not get a magnet on it, or even a kids fishing  net ?

 

I don’t understand the extra work and cost of go getting one without attempting to retrieve it first. 

[magnetman]

Removing materials from the bed of the canal is a byelaw contravention.

 

 

[matty40s]

6 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Removing materials from the bed of the canal is a byelaw contravention.

 

 

Do you know anybody with a pdf that states that??

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

8 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Removing materials from the bed of the canal is a byelaw contravention.

 

 

I’m sure a note from the OP’s mom would be acceptable in this case. 

 

2 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Do you know anybody with a pdf that states that??

 

..let me think 🤔 

[Alan de Enfield]

6 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Do you know anybody with a pdf that states that??

 

"Bot" has not got a Pdf, but I could do a screen shot if it would help !

[alan_fincher]

26 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Do you know anybody with a pdf that states that??

 

From the 1965 bye-laws:-

 

Quote

Prohibition of bathing, taking water etc.
41. No person unless authorised by the Board in that behalf or
otherwise legally entitled so to do shall:
(a) Bathe in any canal
(b) Take any water from any canal (being an inland water to
which section 131 of the Water Resources Act 1963, for the time
being applies
(c) Connect any pipe, culvert or drain to any canal or permit any
pipe, culvert or drain to discharge on to any property of the
Board.
(d) Dredge or remove coal or other material from any canal.

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

8 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

 

From the 1965 bye-laws:-

 

 

Brilliant, so if he gets a note from his mom the board might give him the OK?

👌 

[Annie cariad]

1965 err sure CRT will have that readily available and someone who could enforce it ... Or should I try for the sat lotto with the same likely hood LOL 

[magnetman]

Things are always a bit slow on canals. The last time primary legislation was passed was in 1995. 

This was 28 yars ago. A lifetime for a 28 yar old person.

 

As for byelaws these are enjoyable reading 

 

https://www.wbct.org.uk/early-history/148-1819-canal-rules-and-byelaws

1. . That no boatman or other person shall navigate any boat upon this Canal at any other times than between the hours of seven in the morning and five in the evening during the month of November, December, January and February; between the hours of five in the morning and seven in the evening during the months of March, April, September and October; and between the hours of four in the morning and nine in the evening during the months of May, June, July and August, nor on any Sunday, Christmas Day or Good Friday without the consent of the Company's superintendent for the time being.

 

Quite specific. 

Edited April 15, 2023 by magnetman

[MtB]

2 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

What does this mean?

 

4mm  is insignificant compared to a typical diesel filler.

 

My guess is the OP means 4cm, which is close enough to 1 1/2" so the tube must be 1 1/2"BSP.

 

This would probably do the job:

 

https://www.bes.co.uk/1-1-2in-stainless-steel-150-lb-screwed-hexagon-blanking-cap-14503/

[LadyG]

1 hour ago, Goliath said:

If it’s made of steel why not get a magnet on it, or even a kids fishing  net ?

 

I don’t understand the extra work and cost of go getting one without attempting to retrieve it first. 

My experience with a big magnet was that it affixed itself to a big boat.

[David Mack]

9 minutes ago, LadyG said:

My experience with a big magnet was that it affixed itself to a big boat.

I had a similar experience trying to retrieve a steel windlass which had fallen in very close to some steel piling.

[alan_fincher]

I've known of someone fishing with a large Sea Searcher magnet managing to pull out a second one.

[MtB]

I dropped the clevis pin to a D shackle into the Thames at Oxford whilst adjusting my bow fender, and finally found a use for the Sea Searcher I've had aboard for 20 years.

 

I unfurled the Sea Searcher and after half an hour of using it unsuccessfully casting it into about 6ft depth of water I gave up, imagining it only works in the sea not in rivers.

 

But then I decided to have one last final cast of it into the murky water and bingo, got the clevis pin. Amazing! 

 

80p saved!