Tracy D'arth Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 So he thinks Knapton is on the Oxford canal. Where do they find these people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 Its really in Norfolk, not far away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: Its really in Norfolk, not far away! Or Yorkshire.... or Herefordshire..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 Must admit I had to google Knapton, never heard of the place. Theres a Knapton up by York too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Goliath said: Must admit I had to google Knapton, never heard of the place. Theres a Knapton up by York too. None near the Oxford Canal? Oh dear! Does anyone find the Boaters Update worth the candle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 Also one near Sevenoaks/Tunbridge Wells! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lowe Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 You could go even further for knapton hill it's in Bermuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 I liked the advice to phone C&RT if you break down in the middle of a tunnel. How many tunnels have phone signals? Ok he goes on to say to let someone know you are going into a tunnel and if you don't phone to say you are out, they contact C&RT. You would be making a lot of phone calls at the top of the T & M 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: None near the Oxford Canal? Oh dear! Does anyone find the Boaters Update worth the candle? Sometimes I have nose at them (mainly looking for the obvious blunder) but generally I don’t bother with them. I haven’t had the latest update. Maybe I’ll just unsubscribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 57 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: None near the Oxford Canal? Oh dear! Does anyone find the Boaters Update worth the candle? Quite light reading. I read the bit about breaking down in a tunnel, I have a torch which flashes red. Would the phone work? 41 minutes ago, haggis said: I liked the advice to phone C&RT if you break down in the middle of a tunnel. How many tunnels have phone signals? Ok he goes on to say to let someone know you are going into a tunnel and if you don't phone to say you are out, they contact C&RT. You would be making a lot of phone calls at the top of the T & M 🙂 I didn't get that far, should I phone the incident line before and after as I don't know anyone to ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, LadyG said: Quite light reading. I read the bit about breaking down in a tunnel, I have a torch which flashes red. Would the phone work? I didn't get that far, should I phone the incident line before and after as I don't know anyone to ask I understand that a boater spent quite some time in Gosty Tunnel and that several phone a friend before entering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 I remember Arthur Bray saying, as he departed Raymond for the last time with his rucksack over one shoulder. " I always reckoned the day my Nokia couldn't connect from Blisworth Tunnel would be the day I left ... too dangerous you know." Some say mobile reception was behind the downfall of the FMC Steamer Fleet, I of course couldn't possibly comment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow and Steady Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 On a serious note, the emergency services were very much hampered by the lack of radio communication at the Kings Cross tube station fire. In the wake of this, radiating cable radio infrastructure was installed at all London underground stations. I did a lot of the system drawings and schematics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrodave Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Slow and Steady said: On a serious note, the emergency services were very much hampered by the lack of radio communication at the Kings Cross tube station fire. In the wake of this, radiating cable radio infrastructure was installed at all London underground stations. I did a lot of the system drawings and schematics. Thats just sparked my interest, how does radiating cable radio work? Edited May 6, 2022 by Quattrodave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Slow and Steady said: On a serious note, the emergency services were very much hampered by the lack of radio communication at the Kings Cross tube station fire. In the wake of this, radiating cable radio infrastructure was installed at all London underground stations. I did a lot of the system drawings and schematics. And CRT installed a relay system in Harecastle tunnel following the death in there, but I don't think it ever worked Edit to add 44663-the-source-august-2021.pdf (canalrivertrust.org.uk) Edited May 6, 2022 by ditchcrawler I did it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow and Steady Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Quattrodave said: Thats just sparked my interest, how does radiating cable radio work? Quite simple in reality, instead of an aerial fed by shielded cable, the signal is fed though cable with holes in the shield and a load on the end. AKA Leaky feeder. It's a pretty old technology and the fact that it wasn't already installed in the London underground will no doubt have been due to cost - you can bet the emergency services regularly asked for better radio underground but as these things go it took a disaster before anything happened. Edited May 6, 2022 by Slow and Steady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 I’ve always imagined if I broke down in a tunnel I’d make a cup of tea and wait for the next boat to shove or tow me out. Or use my pole to push myself out. Never considered it something to worry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow and Steady Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Goliath said: I’ve always imagined if I broke down in a tunnel I’d make a cup of tea and wait for the next boat to shove or tow me out. Or use my pole to push myself out. Never considered it something to worry about. Some of the best experiences and adventure in life happen when something goes wrong - fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, Goliath said: I’ve always imagined if I broke down in a tunnel I’d make a cup of tea and wait for the next boat to shove or tow me out. Or use my pole to push myself out. Never considered it something to worry about. It happens surprisingly often. I've probably only done 12 or 15 long tunnel transits and on three occasions I've encountered a broken down boat part way through and towed them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, MtB said: It happens surprisingly often. I've probably only done 12 or 15 long tunnel transits and on three occasions I've encountered a broken down boat part way through and towed them out. I’ve only come across one In Gosty tunnel. Dmr had caught a tyre 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 6 hours ago, MtB said: It happens surprisingly often. I've probably only done 12 or 15 long tunnel transits and on three occasions I've encountered a broken down boat part way through and towed them out. I’m missing out, never met a broken down boat in a tunnel ☹️ Not sure how many times I’ve been through longer ones but it’s at least 100 🤔 It’s fairly unusual outside a tunnel too, other than boats aground. you must attract them MtB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 I've never met a broken down boat in a tunnel and I can't remember whether it was a recent transit of Harecastle or Netherton that part way through I received a text message on my mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rob-M said: I've never met a broken down boat in a tunnel and I can't remember whether it was a recent transit of Harecastle or Netherton that part way through I received a text message on my mobile. Must have been Netherton - the message came down an airshaft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 I broke down in the Harecastle a few years back, no other boats in it. Got the engine restarted after ten minutes and limped out with smoke pouring out of the rocker box caps. That's when I found that if I had called for the tug I'd have had at least an hour's wait as nobody in attendance was authorised to drive it and they had to call a crew in from miles away. This is apparently the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 9 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: And CRT installed a relay system in Harecastle tunnel following the death in there, but I don't think it ever worked Edit to add 44663-the-source-august-2021.pdf (canalrivertrust.org.uk) I thought you had to toot your horn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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