tree monkey Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: But, it is a good job he 'squirreled' away those nut removing tools - "squirrel poo, a Hazelnut in every bite!" So many questions and none I want an answer to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Bee said: I knew I was right to keep all my Whitworth spanners. We will once again lead the world in baffling drill sizes, rounded off nuts and Austin Allegros. So was I, but then with a Perkins 4108M and PRM, BS and Unified are essential, although the 13mm ratchet spanner comes in awful handy on alternator adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Dont think they sell imperial adjustable scanners any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Tonka said: Dont think they sell imperial adjustable scanners any more Read the post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Just now, Ex Brummie said: Read the post again. Or spanners even. Blooming autocorrect wanted to put spammers this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Well, we managed a BBQ tonight in between showers. Late sun attempt below the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandV Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 22/05/2021 at 00:07, Athy said: Yes, 20 = 68 and 0 = 32 are my other points of reference. I've never understood why, when metric temperature measurements became more widespread in the U.K., somehow "centigrade", which perfectly describes the system, was replaced by "celsius" which doesn't. The French have always called it celsius, so perhaps it's something which we imported from the E.U. 16 = 61 and is the transition between coolish and warmish, adding or removing an outer clothing layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Tonka said: Or spanners even. Blooming autocorrect wanted to put spammers this time I never mentioned imperial adjustable spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 22/05/2021 at 09:15, Bee said: I think you should put a 13mm spanner on your christmas list, you don't have to hammer it on your nuts. The mind boggles!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 21/05/2021 at 18:21, ditchcrawler said: Bet you still want a pint in your pot and not 330ml Quite happy with half a litre, thanks - that's what you get for a "pint", which includes the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 22/05/2021 at 09:01, Bee said: >>We will once again lead the world in baffling drill sizes,<< To be fair, the American aerospace industry is at least partly to blame. It helps if you can tell at a glance whether 11/16ths is bigger or smaller than 19/32nds. I can't, but drill sizes in millimetres are dead easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Machpoint005 said: To be fair, the American aerospace industry is at least partly to blame. It helps if you can tell at a glance whether 11/16ths is bigger or smaller than 19/32nds. I can't, but drill sizes in millimetres are dead easy. Do you mean by eye? No I probably couldn't. But it's blatantly obvious that 11/16ths is bigger, as it's 22/32nds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Athy said: Do you mean by eye? No I probably couldn't. But it's blatantly obvious that 11/16ths is bigger, as it's 22/32nds. Perhaps not the best example, but nevertheless, you have to think about it. Millimetric drill sizes are just obvious. I probably could tell by eye, but by that time, how many wrong ones have I taken out of the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Whatever happened to number drills and standard wire guage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulD Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said: Perhaps not the best example, but nevertheless, you have to think about it. Millimetric drill sizes are just obvious. I probably could tell by eye, but by that time, how many wrong ones have I taken out of the box? Yes I have to think about it a lot ! and much happier with the metric system. I can barely use imperial tools without a calculator to convert to metric. I learned the metric system at school ~60 years ago so I think it is time to send my dad's old stuff to the tip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, PaulD said: Yes I have to think about it a lot ! and much happier with the metric system. I can barely use imperial tools without a calculator to convert to metric. I learned the metric system at school ~60 years ago so I think it is time to send my dad's old stuff to the tip. No dont. If you buy an old engine you will need those imperial spanners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, PaulD said: Yes I have to think about it a lot ! and much happier with the metric system. I can barely use imperial tools without a calculator to convert to metric. I learned the metric system at school ~60 years ago so I think it is time to send my dad's old stuff to the tip. You and me both! 6 minutes ago, Tonka said: No dont. If you buy an old engine you will need those imperial spanners ...a very old engine! Old Japanese tractor engines are all metric. I have a non-metric spanner in my toolbox. It's for the drain plug on my PRM gearbox, and I have no idea what size it is. I don't need to know because it's the only one that doesn't say mm on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulD Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tonka said: No dont. If you buy an old engine you will need those imperial spanners OK will keep them for now. We might anyway have to convert back to imperial to get a trade deal with USA. I worked for a US company and I remember getting shipping documents for some 600m wide crawler track pads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Harold Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, PaulD said: Yes I have to think about it a lot ! and much happier with the metric system. I can barely use imperial tools without a calculator to convert to metric. I learned the metric system at school ~60 years ago so I think it is time to send my dad's old stuff to the tip. I am the opposite! I can visualise sizes and distances much easier in imperial. Metric,I have to get my ready reckoner out,or look on a tape measure that has feet and inches on one side,and centimetres on the other. Bring back fathoms,furlongs,and hogsheads and proper tons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Can I still get 18mm 8' x 4' Sheets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Mad Harold said: Bring back fathoms,furlongs,and hogsheads and proper tons! You have missed out the rod, pole or perch, not to mention cubits and spans, then of course there is the ell. All nice logical measurements e.g. a rod pole or perch was 5½ yards. Nowhere near as difficult as the metric system was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ex Brummie said: Can I still get 18mm 8' x 4' Sheets? That highlights a very important principle of the metrication board at the time: only quite dimension in metric when they really are not just an approx conversion from the original imperial dimensions. Initially the wood sheet manufacturers could adjust the thickness to a required metric size but not the widths. Things change over time, some more slowly than others - see the imperial dinosaurs! And some things are specified by law, which changes even slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Last time I tried to pay in groats they were declined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Cheshire cat said: Last time I tried to pay in groats they were declined I think gold is still acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixi188 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 In 1969 I started my apprenticeship and a very nice Mr Ratcliffe at Poole Technical College told me that after 1971 I would never use imperial tools or measurement again. I retired in September 2019 after 50 years in aircraft engineering and was still using AF spanners and occationally even Whitworth ones on some pipe fittings. Some rivets had gone metric but even then they were really imperial as in 3.2 mm (1/8in), 4mm (5/32in) 4.8mm (3/16). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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