WotEver Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BWM said: The Allegro carried on that tradition! Seized King Pin wasn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, WotEver said: Seized King Pin wasn’t it? Trunnion wasnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, mrsmelly said: Trunnion wasnt it? Biz will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, WotEver said: Biz will know Allegros don't have king pins Minors have bottom trunnions that fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, WotEver said: Biz will know Yeah he probably still uses em on his latest car ? I did have a 1928 standard 12 with rod brakes and trunnions, that were interesting to drive!! It was the older model just before the flying Standard came out. 1 minute ago, RLWP said: Allegros don't have king pins Minors have bottom trunnions that fail Thats what I thought ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, RLWP said: Allegros don't have king pins Minors have bottom trunnions that fail Cheers. Same failure with Allegros then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, WotEver said: Cheers. Same failure with Allegros then? No. Because the Allegro is FWD, it doesn't have a king pin (the Minor does), it has two ball joints. So it would be a ball joint failure Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, RLWP said: No. Because the Allegro is FWD, it doesn't have a king pin (the Minor does), it has two ball joints. So it would be a ball joint failure Richard I think I had an operation for that in 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, RLWP said: No. Because the Allegro is FWD, it doesn't have a king pin (the Minor does), it has two ball joints. So it would be a ball joint failure Richard So with Minors (don’t know much about Allegros other than they were ugly) the trunnions snapped due to lack of greasing the king pin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, WotEver said: So with Minors (don’t know much about Allegros other than they were ugly) the trunnions snapped due to lack of greasing the king pin? Huh? That's like saying the roof fell off because of the fog light bulb... King pin and stub axle are part 35. Bottom trunnion is 99. I'm not that familiar with the Minor, I suspect the failure might be the ends of the arms 65 and 66 through corrosion Anyone? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Ahh, I always thought it was part 40 shearing off due to lack of lubrication (through nipple 44). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, WotEver said: Ahh, I always thought it was part 40 shearing off due to lack of lubrication (through nipple 44). We need a Minor expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, RLWP said: We need a Minor expert In what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, RLWP said: We need a Minor expert Wrong forum, we are all the best experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, RLWP said: We need a Minor expert Would we not be better served by a Major expert ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, Alan de Enfield said: Would we not be better served by a Major expert ? Can't afford one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 24 and 30 screwed onto each end of the stub axle strut. If not kept greased reularly rain water rusted away the threads and they could pull out. seals weren;t very good in those days. Same design torsion bar front suspension as the E type Jaguar. The Allegro had more modern spring loaded screw on shim fitted swivel ball joints secured with tab washers. Also torsion bar front suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, RLWP said: Which all falls apart when faced with a Big Woolwich: I'm not arguing with one of those I could argue about your narrow boat identification skills, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I could argue about your narrow boat identification skills, though! It's my Googling skills that are out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I thought that the Minor problem was actually the end of the torsion bar ripping away from the bodywork? (It attached at a point where corrosion was rife). Or was there more than one suspension failure typical with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Nightwatch said: Still is doing and drumming up more business. Well I thought they disbanded in 1970, but for all I know might still be doing a few bits and pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, RLWP said: It's my Googling skills that are out I'm trying (and failing!) to work out which boat. I'm pretty certain it's not ours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I thought that the Minor problem was actually the end of the torsion bar ripping away from the bodywork? (It attached at a point where corrosion was rife). Or was there more than one suspension failure typical with them? I think you mean the strut 105 which could come adrift if the bolt 107 wore through if the nut came loose, but that was very rare. The torsion bar is 76- the spring. Edited March 3, 2019 by bizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I'm trying (and failing!) to work out which boat. I'm pretty certain it's not ours! Chertsey according to a Google picture search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rob-M said: Chertsey according to a Google picture search. But it's a Northwich, which Chertsey isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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