Sea Dog Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, X Alan W said: You have the ideal cure for this problem, Start your engine, cast off & motor off to moorings new If you don't like the boat & folk on it moored next to you up sticks & find a new spot Which works perfectly well most of the time, assuming there's somewhere else to moor that meets your particular needs at that particular time. But what when the numbers of folk who think that they can do as they please and others "can just move on if they don't like it" proliferate, and there's one of those at the next mooring too? The cut would be a poorer place for the loss of kindness and consideration which is so often it's hallmark. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreg Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: Which works perfectly well most of the time, assuming there's somewhere else to moor that meets your particular needs at that particular time. But what when the numbers of folk who think that they can do as they please and others "can just move on if they don't like it" proliferate, and there's one of those at the next mooring too? The cut would be a poorer place for the loss of kindness and consideration which is so often it's hallmark. Precisely; as I said in a previous post, if the inconsiderate ones remain unchallenged their behaviour doesn't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Sea Dog said: Dora, I don't know how experienced you are so forgive me if I'm teaching you to such eggs, but are you confident you're mooring well? If not, consider this: Your bow and stern lines should be at 45 degrees to the boat and run to rings (or bollards, goat chains, pins or whatever) beyond it, not back toward your centre. If ring spacings don't allow this, pick up a ring one end and use a pin or goat chain at the other to adjust the spacing in your favour. Don't be tempted to use your centre line from the roof, as any movement of the boat will cause it to tighten and the pull from high up will force your boat to roll towards the bank making the problem worse. All this doesn't mean some folk won't go by without slowing, but it does mean that you're doing what you can to minimise the effect that they have on your boat. When you pass other boats, watch how differently they react to your passing depending on how they're moored. Hope that helps. I'm moored on pins at the mo with my lines at 45 degrees. My boat is moored pretty well and not moving much, but there's always a bit of a drop on one side as the water is pulled out from under me as boats go by too fast. I'm not really too fussed about it. I worry more about pins being pulled out. Luckily the ground is really hard here so the pins are rock solid, but the passing boats don't know that, do they? A bit further up from me the ground seems softer and I can see a couple of boats gradually having their pins loosened by boats going too fast past them. Thanks for the advice anyway. it's not just me who reads these useful posts and learns from them. There are lots of newbie lurkers on here who read this stuff, I know, I used to be one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: Which works perfectly well most of the time, assuming there's somewhere else to moor that meets your particular needs at that particular time. But what when the numbers of folk who think that they can do as they please and others "can just move on if they don't like it" proliferate, and there's one of those at the next mooring too? The cut would be a poorer place for the loss of kindness and consideration which is so often it's hallmark. Also a problem when you have a permanent mooring, we had a lot of it on our old mooring, the drunks tended to be worse-often falling asleep with it running! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, doratheexplorer said: There are lots of newbie lurkers on here who read this stuff, I know, I used to be one of them! From Laurathelurker to Doratheexplorer, what next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, doratheexplorer said: Thanks for the advice anyway. it's not just me who reads these useful posts and learns from them. There are lots of newbie lurkers on here who read this stuff, I know, I used to be one of them! You're welcome - and that's exactly why I posted Dora, as I didn't know your own boating skills. Of course, there is the odd boat that's either so fast or swims in such a way that it would still give yours a right battering if it was out of the water on davits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: Which works perfectly well most of the time, assuming there's somewhere else to moor that meets your particular needs at that particular time. But what when the numbers of folk who think that they can do as they please and others "can just move on if they don't like it" proliferate, and there's one of those at the next mooring too? The cut would be a poorer place for the loss of kindness and consideration which is so often it's hallmark. I went for a wander up the canal at dusk last night for about 2 miles. Set off at about 8.30 and got back sometime after 10. I walked past 3 boats running their engines. Maybe it is becoming normal? I'd have thought that more boats having solar would mean this happened less. Maybe they all have lots of electrical gubbins on their boats which they are trying to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Harold Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Jerra said: Why is it that you choose a nice quiet place out in the sticks and suddenly others decide to moor close to you? It always seems to happen. Safety in numbers. Any thieves/vandals about another boat other than yours might be chosen.A boat on its own might be a tempting target for scrotes,but more than one may make them hesitate. Also,a moored boat indicates that it is deep enough for another boat to moor without having to "walk the plank" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, rusty69 said: From Laurathelurker to Doratheexplorer, what next! Elainetheexpert, obviously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, rusty69 said: From Laurathelurker to Doratheexplorer, what next! Lurkers don't have names. But if I did, I would have been LucytheLurker. 1 minute ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Elainetheexpert, obviously! GertrudetheGuru? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, doratheexplorer said: I'm moored on pins at the mo with my lines at 45 degrees. My boat is moored pretty well and not moving much, but there's always a bit of a drop on one side as the water is pulled out from under me as boats go by too fast. I'm not really too fussed about it. I worry more about pins being pulled out. Luckily the ground is really hard here so the pins are rock solid, but the passing boats don't know that, do they? A bit further up from me the ground seems softer and I can see a couple of boats gradually having their pins loosened by boats going too fast past them. Thanks for the advice anyway. it's not just me who reads these useful posts and learns from them. There are lots of newbie lurkers on here who read this stuff, I know, I used to be one of them! You must be one of the few that do look for an answer before posting. I'm of the opinion that folks jump in instead of doing any research. I blame it on tablets / mobile phones - too tedious to read anything in depth?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, OldGoat said: You must be one of the few that do look for an answer before posting. I'm of the opinion that folks jump in instead of doing any research. I blame it on tablets / mobile phones - too tedious to read anything in depth?? I don't think you're right. Those are the ones you're aware of. I know of boaters who've read this forum for years and never even joined up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 hours ago, doratheexplorer said: I went for a wander up the canal at dusk last night for about 2 miles. Set off at about 8.30 and got back sometime after 10. I walked past 3 boats running their engines. Maybe it is becoming normal? I'd have thought that more boats having solar would mean this happened less. Maybe they all have lots of electrical gubbins on their boats which they are trying to use. Everybody now seems to have vast amounts of electrics, often running on 240v, from microwaves & washing machines to huge TVs. A fair few seem to run successful businesses from their laptops. The days of gas water heaters & fridges, plus a car radio and miniTV running off the battery seem to over, the downside being endless noise from engines or gennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreg Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 I have 240v fridge, washer, microwave, TV, toaster, phone and tablet chargers, and, in this weather, 300w of solar gives me all the power I need for the day by mid-morning. Water heating is done by the boiler so no engine running required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Furness said: Safety in numbers. Any thieves/vandals about another boat other than yours might be chosen.A boat on its own might be a tempting target for scrotes,but more than one may make them hesitate. Also,a moored boat indicates that it is deep enough for another boat to moor without having to "walk the plank" So should I have a notice to say go away I want to moor on my own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jerra said: So should I have a notice to say go away I want to moor on my own? Just carry loads of crap on the roof and chuck it all on the towpath when you moor to put others off stopping to close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jerra said: So should I have a notice to say go away I want to moor on my own? There used to be a boat regularly moored between Napton and Hilmorton that for a couple of years had a sign hanging off the tiller saying something like "Generator will be running all night" which I suppose amounts to the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, peter n said: There used to be a boat regularly moored between Napton and Hilmorton that for a couple of years had a sign hanging off the tiller saying something like "Generator will be running all night" which I suppose amounts to the same thing. It shouts "selfish bastard" as effectively as sitting in a BMW across two parking spaces. Edited July 11, 2018 by Machpoint005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said: It shouts "selfish bastard" as effectively as sitting in a BMW across two parking spaces. Just found a photo from 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, Rob-M said: Just carry loads of crap on the roof and chuck it all on the towpath when you moor to put others off stopping to close. That don’t work. Others of a similar ilk will come and join you. 12 minutes ago, peter n said: Just found a photo from 2012. Can’t you lose your license or something for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 did he actually run that genie all-night or was it a ploy to be left alone and no boat moor near him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 i passed them several times a few years back in the Brinklow area, and never saw/heard the genny running, even in the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, peter n said: Just found a photo from 2012. Has the look of someone who never got used to not owning a freehold property, get orf my land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceinSanity Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, BWM said: Has the look of someone who never got used to not owning a freehold property, get orf my land! Although he probably believes all property is theft! ? Definite touch of the old flower power there, seems to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, BruceinSanity said: Although he probably believes all property is theft! ? Definite touch of the old flower power there, seems to me. ..apart from the bit he decides to occupy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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