Robbo Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 New pontoon down at Granary Wharf which we are presuming is a lock landing. It’s a very short pound and the water rises and drops quite a lot, at the moment this is high average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 If that ever gets to the top, you won't need to bother with a lock landing at all - just surf straight over the top of the gates and into the river. I have seen the water level at least 2 feet lower than that minimum in there. Any bets it was supposed to be mounted a couple of feet lower, but the wall wasn't straight so they put it on the flat bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess-- Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 ignoring the limited range of height I suspect that it will jam as it tries to drop due to the angle of the riser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Sam Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Expanding bolts into old mortar joints, won't be there long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frahkn Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 That won't support much of a lowering of the water level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Boater Sam said: Expanding bolts into old mortar joints, won't be there long. The building is listed as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, Robbo said: New pontoon down at Granary Wharf which we are presuming is a lock landing. It’s a very short pound and the water rises and drops quite a lot, at the moment this is high average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: I thought you were off to Bristol, not Yorkshire - do CRT know you are trying for York and Leeds again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: I thought you were off to Bristol, not Yorkshire - do CRT know you are trying for York and Leeds again? Still going saarfff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Back to OP ( original picture ) ........Vogon Cruiser in orbit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Kirby Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 20 hours ago, Robbo said: New pontoon down at Granary Wharf which we are presuming is a lock landing. It’s a very short pound and the water rises and drops quite a lot, at the moment this is high average... If that is the lock landing for River Lock I don’t see any problem with the limited amount of travel but it looks like a poor piece of work. Presumably English Heritage had to approve the plan and what do they know about canals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frahkn Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, Stewart Kirby said: If that is the lock landing for River Lock I don’t see any problem with the limited amount of travel but it looks like a poor piece of work. Presumably English Heritage had to approve the plan and what do they know about canals. The OP said that the photo was taken with the water level higher than median, if so surely it will come off the guide rail when the level falls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Kirby Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, frahkn said: The OP said that the photo was taken with the water level higher than median, if so surely it will come off the guide rail when the level falls? I don’t think so. This is the lock landing for River Lock which drops you onto the River Aire. The pound it is in is quite short, maybe be 300-350ft, but there are are side pounds which is where the warehouses of Granary Wharf used to be. One of them was a dry dock but I don’t know how it is used now. The others were in water and one was used for moorings. Lock number 2 is Office Lock which is the start/end of the canal really and the basin is the lowest point on the Yorkshire side if the canal. i have moored overnight and throughout the day many times at Granary Wharf and I have never noticed a marked change in the water level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Stewart Kirby said: I don’t think so. This is the lock landing for River Lock which drops you onto the River Aire. The pound it is in is quite short, maybe be 300-350ft, but there are are side pounds which is where the warehouses of Granary Wharf used to be. One of them was a dry dock but I don’t know how it is used now. The others were in water and one was used for moorings. Lock number 2 is Office Lock which is the start/end of the canal really and the basin is the lowest point on the Yorkshire side if the canal. i have moored overnight and throughout the day many times at Granary Wharf and I have never noticed a marked change in the water level. The pound is short and does drop quite often below the level of guide rail especially in summer when there is a lot of traffic. It doesn’t take much for the pound to drop especially if the lock gate doesn’t shut firmly which it often does but no boater would really check for. I’m based in Leeds so see it happen often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Historically, this section did go up and down quite a bit, as you can see from this 1946 photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) The river was as high as that the other year! Overnight the river was higher than the basin. Edited April 18, 2018 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Ah, but in 1946 it really made Water Street into Water Street: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 It would have done the other year, but they just completed most of the flood defences around that area. Apparently it was the highest ever, but this probably be because of the flood defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Today at around 5.30 after a couple of boats came up from the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Smith Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 What's stopping it coming adrift and floating away, or can you see something I cant. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Neil Smith said: What's stopping it coming adrift and floating away... Absolutely nothing as far as I can see. It appears that it’s about to do just that. Perhaps when it does so it will focus the minds of the contractors and cause them to consider the title of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 It only needs a thick vetical plate between the box section and the claw to take it a up a foot or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, WotEver said: Absolutely nothing as far as I can see. It appears that it’s about to do just that. Perhaps when it does so it will focus the minds of the contractors and cause them to consider the title of this thread. Will it come away if one or two XXL persons happen to use it as intended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0atman Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 17/04/2018 at 19:03, Boater Sam said: Expanding bolts into old mortar joints, won't be there long. Certainly easier than drilling into stone so taken easy option .Cowboy job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) The other mount is higher as the pontoon is higher at that point due to the slope so the pontoon won’t actually drift away. However the pontoon may get jammed on that dolphin as it will be at a slight angle if it did come off the other. It would put more stress on the really secure fixings if it did. Edited April 20, 2018 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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