MtB Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Well I did say 'full of dead rats'. If its full of dead rats there will be little room for any water. That is the main problem with dead rats in the water tank, I think... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: But all the millions of fish in the water, pee in their Port Pottis. Obviously Only if they drink the port first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Trouble is John and Roger had just had a pee in it And Campbell soup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Their main diet was Pemican-corned beef and tons and tons of eggs which must have bound them up absolutely solid, so I doubt if any No 2's went into the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
system 4-50 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I have just replaced my 2 water tanks of unknown history with 2 more brand new plastic tanks so that I can confidently drink the water straight out of them - eventually. For the first year I will use a Britta jug-type filter until I am sure that I have got all the carp out of them that may have got in during the installation. Live carp or dead carp, no rats. After that I will use it straight. It won't be perfect but then nothing is. I won't be drinking from the hot tap as I have a red expansion vessel in the hot line which is not potable grade, but who uses hot water for drinking as it is not hot enough for hot drinks. The discussion of water quality is clouded (!) by a lack of knowledge of how water works. It can have solids floating in it, fine solids that mix in very well, organic (ie carbon based) contaminants that float, form emulsions, or dissolve, inorganic contaminants in solution, various biological stuff that can grow once in it and dissolved gases like carbon dioxide. Our water companies have to use umpteen separate purification stages to get our water to drinking quality so just looking at it, seeing it clear, and saying it tastes alright is not enough. Nor will a simple filter get rid of every possibility. I understand that some inorganic contaminants actually make the water taste better! Many possible bad things in water take a long time to affect your body so for safety's sake the next BSS Update will require all boats that use paint on the inside of their built-in water tanks to only carry persons aged 50 or more. In our culture stuff that does you harm only in the long term is still not handled properly though asbestos, tobacco, thalidomide, and cancers are beginning to change that. IMHO. Is there a smiley for imho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Alcohol drinking needs severely limiting, not smoking. Smoking has a calming effect not the generally aggressive effect that alcohol usually causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, bizzard said: Alcohol drinking needs severely limiting, not smoking. Smoking has a calming effect not the generally aggressive effect that alcohol usually causes. The more people keep on smoking tobacco, the easier it will be to finance the pensions of non-smokers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 57 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said: The more people keep on smoking tobacco, the easier it will be to finance the pensions of non-smokers. Same goes for heavy drinkers, plus the violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Don't Bogart that joint, Bizz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal422 Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Thanks everyone for the replies ! Had a good laugh at some of them I like Sea Dog's comment about replacing a large, convenient potable water system with several small, inconvenient ones ! Still not totally sure which way to go, filling up containers from the water points now seems really no different from filling up the boat's tank (unless there really are dead rats inside it - at least with a plastic bottle you can see if there are any rats Cuthound's comment about the shareboat being out all the time and therefore the tank never being left to stagnate is reassuring though. I guess we are becoming rather obsessed with health and safety and really we don't have sterilised water in our homes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Drank from mine twice, first time it tasted like crap, even boiled in tea, second time because i ran out of bottle water it gave me a bad belly for the day. Bottled water for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickent Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 The only time ours tasted crap was when we filled the tank on the Ashby near Bosworth marina, had a tcp antiseptic taste for at least a week after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rickent said: The only time ours tasted crap was when we filled the tank on the Ashby near Bosworth marina, had a tcp antiseptic taste for at least a week after. You could have gargled with that, soothes the throat. Aged GRP water tanks water could taste of TCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirweste Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 13 hours ago, Rickent said: The only water we drink from our water tank is boiled to make tea or coffee. We use bottled water to drink at other times. We have a stainless steel water tank which we treat fairly regularly with milton, so would be ok to drink directly from tank but we just choose not to. If you're not comfortable drinking straight from the tap then I just wanted to let you know that water should either be heated over a longish time period to the boiling temp where you are, or held at your boiling temp for approximately at least a minute. Fast heat to boiling and then a quick cool down will not inactivate everything. 3 hours ago, Neil Smith said: If you really don't want to drink it straight out the tank just get a filter jug an keep in the fridge. Neil 2 hours ago, system 4-50 said: I have just replaced my 2 water tanks of unknown history with 2 more brand new plastic tanks so that I can confidently drink the water straight out of them - eventually. For the first year I will use a Britta jug-type filter until I am sure that I have got all the carp out of them that may have got in during the installation. Live carp or dead carp, no rats. After that I will use it straight. It won't be perfect but then nothing is. I believe all the various jugs do is change the taste of water, they don't remove pathogens / bacteria. I might be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirweste Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, Eternal422 said: Thanks everyone for the replies ! Had a good laugh at some of them I like Sea Dog's comment about replacing a large, convenient potable water system with several small, inconvenient ones ! Still not totally sure which way to go, filling up containers from the water points now seems really no different from filling up the boat's tank (unless there really are dead rats inside it - at least with a plastic bottle you can see if there are any rats Cuthound's comment about the shareboat being out all the time and therefore the tank never being left to stagnate is reassuring though. I guess we are becoming rather obsessed with health and safety and really we don't have sterilised water in our homes anyway. I personally drink from mine, but I aint fussy at all about water. I spend time in the mountains for various reasons and always end up drinking from streams without problems. If it's regularly flushed through I really wouldnt be concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) For liveaboards, the tank water will always be fresh. But for leisure boats, I wouldn't be so sure. I don't drink plain water very often, I normally dilute it with malt whisky........... Edited May 5, 2017 by mross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, mross said: For liveaboards, the tank water will always be fresh. But for leisure boats, I wouldn't be so sure. I don't drink plain water very often, I normally dilute it with malt whisky........... Fresh when put in the tank! Mine gets topped up weekly, but still gave me a bad belly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Neil Smith said: If you really don't want to drink it straight out the tank just get a filter jug an keep in the fridge. Neil A filter jug will not make dodgy water safe to drink. By all means drink 'tank water' yourself, but don't give it to the very young, the elderly, or the immuno-compromised. And treating your tank once a year is not going to provide protection for very long! If you have done it for 15 years that's annecdote, not evidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 On 06/04/2017 at 08:33, Irob said: In common with others, lived aboard for 16+ years and have always drunk from the tank, no treatments' or owt, never had any issues. phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I have always drunk water straight from the tank on any boat I have been on. Never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I drink the water straight from the canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Eater Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 We sterilize the tank at the beginning of the year with Milton and then use a filter jug before drinking any water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 15 hours ago, alan_fincher said: We have always used the water from the domestic tanks for drinking just as if it were tap water at home. This has so far caused no issues whatsoev............................................. Eeeeeeeeh Yakka-Boo, Yakka-Boo Eeeeeeeeh Yakka-Boo, Yakka-Boo Eeeeeeeeh Yakka-Boo, Yakka-Boo Snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, Pie Eater said: We sterilize the tank at the beginning of the year with Milton and then use a filter jug before drinking any water. Why do you use the filter jug? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 On 05/05/2017 at 13:58, Dave Payne said: Fresh when put in the tank! Mine gets topped up weekly, but still gave me a bad belly. How do you know it was the water, and not something you ate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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