Historic Boats for sale online

[onionbargee]

8 grand for the engine ?

[magnetman]

does she come with a free sofa?

Edited April 24, 2013 by magnetman

[David Mack]

The unconverted big Northwich motor Tadworth is for sale, requires re-bottoming.

 

30k, includes a free windlass.

 

Where is Tadworth advertised?

[davidg]

"where on earth do you spend another £49K?"

 

It is interesting when people quote figures for the costs of restoring a boat to working trim to consider what sort of job is being done: one could have, for example, a big Woolwich motor with a new rivetted engine room, wooden back cabin, wooden deck & cants, wooden gunwhales round the back cabin & engine room (Greenock is the example I have in mind) or you could take a big Woolwich & put a new steel cabin & engine room on with little refererence the how the boat looked through its carrying life, take Barnet as an example. Both are valid things to do, but the amount of time involved in one is very different to the time (and therefore cost) of the other.

 

Take making a new mast: do you have the old ironwork? Is it useable as it stands with a quick wirebrush & a coat of paint? How long does it take to make the ironwork for a new topmast, do you for instance have a supply of luby pins lying about? What sort of timber is being used? You are painting everything inside and out aren't you? If you have to make the ironwork it it will be a much more expensive job and to say it should cost £x to make is pretty meaningless without considering what sort of job is being done.

 

"Base purchase price was £1.00 off British Waterways plus five years prior lease at £5 per year."

 

This raises another interesting question as to what weight should CART ( &BW before them) attach to securing best value when disposing of assets. These boats were public assets and when chuggers are roaming the towpath asking for donations should CART be giving them away.There is clearly a market for them among the historic boat community and as Groucho Marx said "they ain't making any more".

[Laurence Hogg]

"where on earth do you spend another £49K?"

 

It is interesting when people quote figures for the costs of restoring a boat to working trim to consider what sort of job is being done: one could have, for example, a big Woolwich motor with a new rivetted engine room, wooden back cabin, wooden deck & cants, wooden gunwhales round the back cabin & engine room (Greenock is the example I have in mind) or you could take a big Woolwich & put a new steel cabin & engine room on with little refererence the how the boat looked through its carrying life, take Barnet as an example. Both are valid things to do, but the amount of time involved in one is very different to the time (and therefore cost) of the other.

 

Take making a new mast: do you have the old ironwork? Is it useable as it stands with a quick wirebrush & a coat of paint? How long does it take to make the ironwork for a new topmast, do you for instance have a supply of luby pins lying about? What sort of timber is being used? You are painting everything inside and out aren't you? If you have to make the ironwork it it will be a much more expensive job and to say it should cost £x to make is pretty meaningless without considering what sort of job is being done.

 

"Base purchase price was £1.00 off British Waterways plus five years prior lease at £5 per year."

 

This raises another interesting question as to what weight should CART ( &BW before them) attach to securing best value when disposing of assets. These boats were public assets and when chuggers are roaming the towpath asking for donations should CART be giving them away.There is clearly a market for them among the historic boat community and as Groucho Marx said "they ain't making any more".

 

If you had bothered to read the previous posts I am not talking about "Barnet" but "Tucana" which was rescued by a local school from the doomed "Moving Forward" project in Birmingham. I am in charge of repairing the boat on behalf of the school in question and the costings are taken from estimates and bills paid for work now completed.

[Chris Pink]

Ah I see, a school is paying. From my time in education I know schools - read the government - read Joe Taxpayer - always pays well over twice the going rate.

[onionbargee]

does she come with a free sofa?

no sorry, it's going in my new boat, i'll throw in a stool. ( not the sit on kind though )

 

Where is Tadworth advertised?

here, PM me.

[magnetman]

..., i'll throw in a stool. ( not the sit on kind though )

 

 

 

 

is that going to be salvaged from Marsworth?

Edited April 24, 2013 by magnetman

[onionbargee]

is that going to be salvaged from Marsworth?

 

dont get that one, did i meet you there on my travels ?

[magnetman]

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Edited April 25, 2013 by magnetman

[davidg]

If you had bothered to read the previous posts I am not talking about "Barnet" but "Tucana"

 

I had "bothered to read the previous posts" and know you were referring to Tucana. I was merely citing Greenock and Barnet as examples of two vastly different jobs done on the same type of boat and pointing out the costs of these are not the same.

[Pluto]

"Base purchase price was £1.00 off British Waterways plus five years prior lease at £5 per year."

 

This raises another interesting question as to what weight should CART ( &BW before them) attach to securing best value when disposing of assets. These boats were public assets and when chuggers are roaming the towpath asking for donations should CART be giving them away.There is clearly a market for them among the historic boat community and as Groucho Marx said "they ain't making any more".

Opinions can differ when it comes to obtaining best value, but many of the organisations which acquired heritage boats from BW shortly before C&RT were formed are actively promoting inland waterways. It could be said that the value of these boats was greater in this role than their market monetary value. Well-run heritage boats not only promote inland waterways, but also offer a way for those without sufficient finances, or the desire, to own their own boat to become involved.

[Laurence Hogg]

"Barnet" although now privately owned is maintained and operated as a work boat by CanaScape-BCN. Recently we deputised for a CRT craft which was not available for transfer of fly tippings to a disposal site. All our other operations are of similar nature ranging from waterway inspections by the manager to tree lopping and scrub removal.

[ChimneyChain]

Ex FMC Malvern on the duck for £58.000

 

Darren

[stagedamager]

And Hazel sold.... not to me though...

[alan_fincher]

(From Brinklow Boats post on Facebook.....)

 

Large Northwich Motor Canal Boat Rufford is for sale, rebottomed and re footed, new riveted back cabin and engine room, new main cabin and gunwhales out of steel. Fitted out by previous owner. Engine replaced last year with HR2 with black stone gear box, the HR is 1970s came boxed from the MOD so is in new condition, very low hours. Best box is second hand but again is in good condition. Asking price around £65.000.00. The steel new work dates from year 2000. Docked regularly and epoxy paint system carried on.

 

[Speedwheel]

John and Diane are selling Ladybank (I assume it is them who still have it)

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=303469

[alan_fincher]

John and Diane are selling Ladybank (I assume it is them who still have it)

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=303469

Well there's a multitude of information in that advertisement, isn't there?

 

Apparently it has a diesel engine.........

[Timleech]

Well there's a multitude of information in that advertisement, isn't there?

 

Apparently it has a diesel engine.........

 

It's a Russell Newbery with a cracked block, but they have a spare block.

 

Tim

[onionbargee]

Tadworth is still for sale, a proper unconverted boat, not ponced up. A veritable bargain, just put an add in Waterways world. Form an orderly queue please.

[alan_fincher]

The Admiral pair Mountbatten & Jellicoe are still listed on Apollo Duck at £67,500

 

However latest HNBC magazine says £60,000, if anybody interested.

 

Also listed, Bournemouth at £50,000

[Black Ibis]

Also listed, Bournemouth at £50,000

With a £1000 finders' fee for anyone who puts them in touch with a buyer. Should have got James to recommend me!

 

(But it was too expensive for us and Willow's hull is in better condition.)

[Speedwheel]

Nurser Hazel on Apolloduck again.

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/advert.phtml?id=305327

And this one has also been on before. I love it!

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/advert.phtml?id=305995

This picture doesn't do it any favours though!! http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/image.phtml?id=305995ℑ=12

[stagedamager]

it's funny, when i saw this thread on the list, i thought "I bet Hazel is back on the market" funny how you get a gut feeling, although it appears to have gone up in value??

Damn you for pointing this out!!

 

Dan

[RLWP]

Down, surely. It was £15,000

 

Richard