Historic Boats for sale online

[David Schweizer]

10 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

I'm assuming property of chris pink of this forum, (although I don't think he has visited in over a year).

 

Chris certainly still owned Kestrel a number of years ago. I supplied him with enough very large brass screws to re-fit the portholes when he renovated the back cabin. I haven't seen him or Kestrel for a while, so whether he is still the owner, I do not know. If people really want to know, I could probably  find out.

[alan_fincher]

18 hours ago, James Owen said:

Albeit advertised with some woefully inaccurate information.

 

But surely it is the pair to Taygeta.   Not interested, then?  🙂

[James Owen]

5 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

But surely it is the pair to Taygeta.   Not interested, then?  🙂

If I could guarantee that Taygeta is indeed she then maybe...

[David Schweizer]

On 25/09/2022 at 18:15, alan_fincher said:

Yes, correct!  Butty Kestrel is the only example I can think of for a boat renamed by Willow Wren as a bird, but not a water bird.

 

What about the wideboat Pullett, which is some kind of chicken;  or Wagtail which is a ground habiting bird;  then there is Bunting, unless the name is a shortened form of Common Reed Bunting, which isn't actually a water bird, although it does often nest in or near marshy areas. I am also unsure about Warbler but there are several visiting Warblers, which aren't actually water birds but with water associations in their name eg. Reed Warbler, Marsh Warbler etc.

 

Sits back and awaits ridicule from the ornitholigists. 😁

 

 

 

 

Edited September 26 by David Schweizer

[alan_fincher]

18 minutes ago, David Schweizer said:

 

What about Pullett, which I think is some kind of chicken, formery Sabey & Co wide tug Antelope;   Wagtail which is a ground habiting bird, (formerly FMC Freda).; then there is Bunting (formerly GUCC Dudley) unless the name is a shortened form of Common Reed Bunting, which isn't actually a water bird, although it does often nest in or near marshy areas.  am also unsure about Warbler (formerly GUCCC Libra), but there are several visiting Warblers, which aren't actually water birds but with water associations in their name eg. Reed Warbler, Marsh Warbler etc.

 

Sits back and ridicule from the ornitholigists. 😁

 

I guess more pertinently  can anybody produce any evidence that any Willow Wren motor was ever called Greenfinch?

I've certainly never heard of it, and doubt it appears in any published Willow Wren fleet list.

Nor can it be a mistake For Greenshank, as that was a butty, not a motor.

From a scan of images, Kestrel, (aka Triagulum and Elizabeth) , can be seen to have worked with Rail, Swan & Tern

[David Schweizer]

15 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

I guess more pertinently  can anybody produce any evidence that any Willow Wren motor was ever called Greenfinch?

I've certainly never heard of it, and doubt it appears in any published Willow Wren fleet list.

Nor can it be a mistake For Greenshank, as that was a butty, not a motor.

From a scan of images, Kestrel, (aka Triagulum and Elizabeth) , can be seen to have worked with Rail, Swan & Tern

 

 

Certainly no Greenfinch from any of my books/photos.  Rail, Swan & Tern the only three I have photo evidence of working with Kestrel.

[Derek R.]

Amongst the Wagtails there is a Water Wagtail, and a Pullet is a young hen, as in female chicken.

[spud]

funny little icer

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265879132374?hash=item3de7a198d6:g:jssAAOSwoNRjHK4C&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoH41MRqIkTMu54Yt3Z5Sb6mrriL4S09pgfw1nCcRqBHHGD3xTJcBpSx5hIwgDq8CdfTFvvr37lyBt9X7PAgqDQ5s786MJHXsuKnQ%2Fl2N18scJYDLH5DFcbQ3AwMDFigy5baIUdudmEhLvOXPfLDaJfao48rGaIcROfrS7Pk0Qg9SEyEiB0%2BbRlMnZZ8T6EEcfgoJlTEtmI%2BzNO54CNKIzNk%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_i8rLbvYA

[David Schweizer]

1 hour ago, Derek R. said:

Amongst the Wagtails there is a Water Wagtail, and a Pullet is a young hen, as in female chicken.

 

A regional name for the Pied Wagtail which is not really a waterbird, but one which is sometimes seen near water where it feedso n flies etc.

[Derek R.]

9 hours ago, David Schweizer said:

 

A regional name for the Pied Wagtail which is not really a waterbird, but one which is sometimes seen near water where it feedso n flies etc.

I guess you could say it's a 'regional' title when many Wagtails frequent areas of water. Pied; Yellow; Grey; Water. They are largely insectivors, and insects are found near and in water.

And how about Willow Wren? Which is a misnomer, as it generally is referred to as the Willow Warbler.

 

I think Willow Wren - the company - most likely chose birds that had an affinity to water, rather than strict and direct associations with water. Dipper definitely, and Mallard? Not so much Kestrel maybe. The Wagtail can also be found frequenting motorway service area car parks, where they scavenge for small morsels of cast off crumbs from the less edible fodder available for humans - the Car Park Wagtail.

 

We have some in the farmyard. Alway bugs there.  😉

 

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/water-wagtail

[Steve Priest]

On 25/09/2022 at 15:02, James Owen said:

Albeit advertised with some woefully inaccurate information.

Well, it made me smile!  - “ extensively restored by Brinklow Boats in 1990 with a full traditional back cabin by Simon and Rex Wain”

Simon, Rex and I didn’t form Brinklow Boat Services until 1997,  Kestrel was restored by the Warwickshire Flyboat Company, when the three of us still worked there. The steelwork was done by myself, and unless I am very much mistaken, the cabin was fitted out by Don Donnelly, subsequently grained and decorated by myself.

 

The work was done for a chap called Mike Samson who actually bought the boat from Willow Wren, but did nothing with it for several years. Once we had done the work he bought the Hyperion and paired it with that. It was actually my first attempt at replacing a Northwich riveted cabin, the old one was way past restoring, but at least we had it for a pattern

 

Here are a few pictures from the archive:-

 

 

 

[ditchcrawler]

10 hours ago, Steve Priest said:

Simon, Rex and I didn’t form Brinklow Boat Services until 1997,  Kestrel was restored by the Warwickshire Flyboat Company, when the three of us still worked there. The steelwork was done by myself, and unless I am very much mistaken, the cabin was fitted out by Don Donnelly, subsequently grained and decorated by myself.

 

I am guessing there are about 500 rivets in that cabin

[Steve Priest]

58 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

I am guessing there are about 500 rivets in that cabin

I would doubt quite that many, 2” pitch on the roof flanges, roof seam ( the roof is fitted in two pieces ), and the bulkhead, 2 3/8” pitch on the framing. My guess would be 300 - 350

[NB Watersnail]

Another one for sale today - at least, 'some' of it is historic....

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/narrowboatsforsaleuk/permalink/2495125163972880/?sale_post_id=2495125163972880

Edited September 28 by NB Watersnail

[alan_fincher]

9 minutes ago, NB Watersnail said:

Another one for sale today - at least, 'some' of it is historic....

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/narrowboatsforsaleuk/permalink/2495125163972880/?sale_post_id=2495125163972880

 

Impressive that the seller can't actually spell the name of the boat!

Edited September 28 by alan_fincher

[matty40s]

11 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Impressive that the seller can't actually spell the name of the boat!

Even more impressive is that it's called NB Facebook...log in for details....how many potential customers does that lose.

[David Mack]

2 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Even more impressive is that it's called NB Facebook...log in for details....how many potential customers does that lose.

Trouble with Facebookers is they think everyone is on FB...

[Derek R.]

Well, it looks a tad better on that FB page than it did when NBOC got a couple of images. It's a bit frightening nonetheless.

I'm not in Facebook, but the link took me there. Not that I'll be going again.

[ditchcrawler]

20 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Even more impressive is that it's called NB Facebook...log in for details....how many potential customers does that lose.

Well there are only just over 25,000 members

[John Brightley]

30 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Impressive that the seller can't actually spell the name of the boat!

But it is very cheap -£10k. If some of you couldn't see the ad, apparently it is the stern of FMC Cormorant with a 1960's bow by BW. Here's a photo.

[alan_fincher]

Cormorant was apparently at one stage a luxury pleasure boat!

 

See here...

[spud]

mistake

Edited September 28 by spud

[David Mack]

At that price it might be worth buying to get one of the first division boatbuilders to put a proper Josher bow and cabin on it.

[magnetman]

Thats  not an FM&C stern.

28 minutes ago, David Mack said:

At that price it might be worth buying to get one of the first division boatbuilders to put a proper Josher bow and cabin on it.

 

Odd boat. Wrong bow and wrong stern. Maybe the bit in the middle is original?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 28 by magnetman

[junior]

Fugly.