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[magnetman]

I stand corrected. It was the depth which threw me. I'm sure you are right.

[Steve Priest]

1 hour ago, magnetman said:

I stand corrected. It was the depth which threw me. I'm sure you are right.

Yes, with the increase in the depth and the guard lowered it has a look of one of the post war counters

[merline]

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[stagedamager]

100 years old....... hmm....... fingers crossed she finds a sympathetic home.

[roland elsdon]

I think thats wooden nurser Hazel.

still appears to have SR 3 though i remember a 2 back in the 80s

Remember towing her fast to Uxbridge dock in 1981 when she had a water ingress related incident and the sr2 was in bits.

[stagedamager]

It is indeed Hazel. Due some serious planking work I think. When mum and dad raised her at Trent Lock in 1993 there were some soft planks then which were still evident when we looked at her at Pigeons Lock about ten years ago. Tenner they're still there 

[Derek R.]

Maybe the "softness" gave way to Bramble growth.

HAZEL was up for sale some time back. I recall seeing it around Hemel/Berko one time. Might have been when I was still on the buses, or it may have been later.

[MtB]

3 hours ago, stagedamager said:

It is indeed Hazel. Due some serious planking work I think. When mum and dad raised her at Trent Lock in 1993 there were some soft planks then which were still evident when we looked at her at Pigeons Lock about ten years ago. Tenner they're still there 

 

I too remember Hazel at Pigeon's Lock for months, but this was only five or six years ago. I seem to remember seeing about a four foot section of the hull being cut away amidships on one side by someone to get an Aga or similar out of the boat. Or that may have been a dream as there seems to be no evidence of this in the photos. 

 

Or maybe that was the other Hazel. There are two wooden Hazels IIRC.

[stagedamager]

Just now, MtB said:

 

I too remember Hazel at Pigeon's Lock for months, but this was only five or six years ago. I seem to remember seeing about a four foot section of the hull being cut away amidships on one side by someone to get an Aga or similar out of the boat. Or that may have been a dream as there seems to be no evidence of this in the photos. 

 

Or maybe that was the other Hazel. There are two wooden Hazels IIRC.

I think that was on the Lee and Stort and was Big Ricky Taunton??

[MtB]

3 minutes ago, stagedamager said:

I think that was on the Lee and Stort and was Big Ricky Taunton??

 

No I've never been there. I was hanging around the southern Oxford a lot about six years ago and remember repeatedly passing Hazel CMing on the VMs just below Pigeons. Then one day there was a big hole in the cabin side with the top two hull planks sawn out too. 

 

Having looked at the photos I'm convinced this must have been a dream as there is no evidence there now. Unless the photos are more than six years old. The boat looked a right mess back then too, just like in the photos. 

[stagedamager]

A shame it was done to two boats if that's the case. She's crying out to be loved, rebuilt and put back into working trim. Not many Nurser butties around which retain the majority of their lines??

[roland elsdon]

Lifting her might be interesting

[stagedamager]

In that condition yes. 

[Derek R.]

The 'other' HAZEL is a Wooden header. I believe it has been the subject of a restoration up near Dukinfield IIRC.

[alan_fincher]

53 minutes ago, MtB said:

No I've never been there. I was hanging around the southern Oxford a lot about six years ago and remember repeatedly passing Hazel CMing on the VMs just below Pigeons. Then one day there was a big hole in the cabin side with the top two hull planks sawn out too. 

 

Having looked at the photos I'm convinced this must have been a dream as there is no evidence there now. Unless the photos are more than six years old. The boat looked a right mess back then too, just like in the photos. 

 

I'm fairly certain that 6 years ago Hazel was already out of water at Clifton Cruisers.  I'm not great with the passage of time, but I'd say it has been there 7, or possibly even 8 years.

We ate meal with its owners, who had ambitious plans, and seemed to be realistic and practical, not dreamers.  A shame it didn't work out.

I'm sure that when we saw it then that it had not been butchered to liberate an Aga, or similar.

 

As already stated this is the Samuel Barlows Nurser built Hazel, quite different from the one that has been put back in action by the Wooden Canal Boat Society, on the Ashton.

 

Amongst its very varied history it was actually a hire boat for Wyvern Shipping Company in the early 1970s.

 

[stagedamager]

It popped up on my Facebook memories last week ironically that we went to Pigeons Lock to look at her. That was 11 years ago.

[merline]

Talking of Chris Pink and Kestrel...   https://www.facebook.com/groups/292859678589451/permalink/803339687541445/

Edited October 2, 2022 by merline
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[zenataomm]

Here's Hazel, sitting at Clifton Cruisers, been there half a dozen or so years.

Clifton upon Dunsmore, England - Google Maps

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3797787,-1.2357688,3a,75y,271.99h,67.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suo9-JXbp6s2BSP2vW7xwLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[alan_fincher]

2 hours ago, merline said:

Talking of Chris Pink and Kestrel...   https://www.facebook.com/groups/292859678589451/permalink/803339687541445/

 

Unlike the Apollo Duck advert, (so far not amended), this one shows a pairing with Mallard, (i.e. not Greenfinch).

In the image taken at Linslade, (where it appears as Wyvern Shipping's Elizabeth, is anybody able to positively identify the Middle Northwich icebreaker/tug, please?  I'm sure it is either Sickle or Theophilus, and am pretty confident it is Theophilus rather that Sickle.  I would dearly like evidence that proves that, though.

[matty40s]

1 hour ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Unlike the Apollo Duck advert, (so far not amended), this one shows a pairing with Mallard, (i.e. not Greenfinch).

In the image taken at Linslade, (where it appears as Wyvern Shipping's Elizabeth, is anybody able to positively identify the Middle Northwich icebreaker/tug, please?  I'm sure it is either Sickle or Theophilus, and am pretty confident it is Theophilus rather that Sickle.  I would dearly like evidence that proves that, though.

Theophilus worked as a hire boat for Wyvern for some years, only lost its hire cabin top around 2015 at Glascote.

[Derek R.]

3 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Unlike the Apollo Duck advert, (so far not amended), this one shows a pairing with Mallard, (i.e. not Greenfinch).

In the image taken at Linslade, (where it appears as Wyvern Shipping's Elizabeth, is anybody able to positively identify the Middle Northwich icebreaker/tug, please?  I'm sure it is either Sickle or Theophilus, and am pretty confident it is Theophilus rather that Sickle.  I would dearly like evidence that proves that, though.

 

It's close. Both THEOPHILUS and SICKLE have the riveted on support bracket for the blade in exactly the same place. Both had the rocking bar fixed to a plate on the front engine room bulkhead that was raised above the roof. TYCHO and SEXTANS were fixed below the roof line directly against the bulkhead.

But the images I have of Alf Best steering SICKLE show an air intake in front of the pigeon box - facing forward. But when was that arrangement fitted?

 

I would plump for THEOPHILUS.

[Tim Lewis]

14 hours ago, matty40s said:

Theophilus worked as a hire boat for Wyvern for some years, only lost its hire cabin top around 2015 at Glascote.

 

With Cabin top in 2012

 

 

[MtB]

32 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said:

 

With Cabin top in 2012

 

 

 

 

It does seem like an act of historic vandalism to have cut that beautiful cabin off, then leave the hull out on the hard standing to rot in the weather.

 

Or has work on it now commenced?

 

 

[alan_fincher]

12 hours ago, Derek R. said:

But the images I have of Alf Best steering SICKLE show an air intake in front of the pigeon box - facing forward. But when was that arrangement fitted?

I doubt it would have had the vent whilst fitted with a Russel Newbery engine, those being water cooled, of course.

 

The first air cooled engine fitted would have been the Armstrong Siddeley "Peregrine", (i.r.AS3), fitted in January 1957, this being replaced in turn by several 3 cylinder Listers.

The photo showing the icebreaker, alongside Wyvern's Heather Belle and Elizabeth has to be from the mid 1950s, as they did not have Elizabeth long, (from memory limited to about 1954 to 1956, but I'd need to check).  if it was Sickle in the photo, (which I doubt), it would still have had the Russel Newbery.

[alan_fincher]

11 minutes ago, MtB said:

It does seem like an act of historic vandalism to have cut that beautiful cabin off, then leave the hull out on the hard standing to rot in the weather.

 

Or has work on it now commenced?

Whilst it has clearly had at least a good covering of paint shortly before Tim's photo, I'm fairly certain it was pretty life expired when the current owner swapped it for a replacement boat.

Whilst mos of the cabin dates from its hire boat days, the forward part is a later addition, boxing in over the former well deck.

 

Here is a hire boat view, though this looks like its sister "Hesperus", (actually GUCCCo "Sextans"