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Dear all, hello! I have my widebeam (11ft wide, 50ft long weighing 28 tonnes) up for sale in London on a residential mooring. Due to this economic mess we're in it's very quite. Therefore I decided to move it to where my new job is starting in the interim period in Oxfordshire trouble is... I can't find a widebeam mooring on the web anywhere in he lart of the world Any hints? Know of any private moorings or end of a field/garden? Also does anyone know of a haulage company that haul that size of boat? Is it even possible to road haul this vessel there? Seems to be a 40 tonne limit!? more grief! Which is all owning this boat has been for 8 yrs.. Exspensive and can't do anything with it due to climate.

 

 

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Dear all, hello! I have my widebeam (11ft wide, 50ft long weighing 28 tonnes) up for sale in London on a residential mooring. Due to this economic mess we're in it's very quite. Therefore I decided to move it to where my new job is starting in the interim period in Oxfordshire trouble is... I can't find a widebeam mooring on the web anywhere in he lart of the world Any hints? Know of any private moorings or end of a field/garden? Also does anyone know of a haulage company that haul that size of boat? Is it even possible to road haul this vessel there? Seems to be a 40 tonne limit!? more grief! Which is all owning this boat has been for 8 yrs.. Exspensive and can't do anything with it due to climate.

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Mark

well, if it's a boat, the first suggestion would be to move it by canal/river.

Which part of Oxfordshire.

If boat is 28 tonne, I have no doubt you fit within the 40 tonne limit, however,it may just be a challenge finding somewhere to crane out and back in.

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Dear all, hello! I have my widebeam (11ft wide, 50ft long weighing 28 tonnes) up for sale in London on a residential mooring. Due to this economic mess we're in it's very quite. Therefore I decided to move it to where my new job is starting in the interim period in Oxfordshire trouble is... I can't find a widebeam mooring on the web anywhere in he lart of the world Any hints? Regards

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

Apart from the Thames, are there any other widebeam waterways in Oxfordshire?

 

Also does anyone know of a haulage company that haul that size of boat? Is it even possible to road haul this vessel there? Seems to be a 40 tonne limit!? more grief! Which is all owning this boat has been for 8 yrs.. Exspensive and can't do anything with it due to climate.

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Mark

 

If your boat is the same Reada that was craned out and had a bit of work done a couple of months ago at Highline on the Slough Arm then Im sure you know they may be able to suggest a haulage firm. Biggest ive seen so far was a huge dutch Luxemotor arrive by road and get lifted in and then spend a few hours dismantling the wheel house to get under the bridges

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If you have a look on apolloduck under marinas/moorings there are moorings being advertised in Lechlade which I think is Gloucestershire but I don't know where in Oxfordshire you will be working.It's not a good timing stoppage wise to be moving a boat at the moment but if there was any way you could delay the boat move until spring the non tidal thames is very benign as long as there are no yellow/red boards in action.It would be a tank of diesel versus haulage.Thames and Kennett in Reading always have vacancies and is close to border with Oxfordshire but not cheap.

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Problem is not the weight, but the width, at 11 foot you are into having to get permission and cleared route. Even on the motorways you might need an escort as you are a "wide load" and all that applies.

Talk to plod, they will know what permissions are required, restrictions on movement hours and the like. But you will need to know where the boat is going before they can give you any concrete help.

With cranes at both ends and a special transport it will not be a cheap haul. Much better and cheaper if you can get it to it destination by water.

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Problem is not the weight, but the width, at 11 foot you are into having to get permission and cleared route. Even on the motorways you might need an escort as you are a "wide load" and all that applies.

Talk to plod, they will know what permissions are required, restrictions on movement hours and the like. But you will need to know where the boat is going before they can give you any concrete help.

With cranes at both ends and a special transport it will not be a cheap haul. Much better and cheaper if you can get it to it destination by water.

 

Parglena was moved by road forom yorkshire to MK she was at the time 50' x 11'6 so 11ft is not the limit.

From a quick google it seems to be 4.3m or roughly 14ft

They did have to file a "flight plan" with the plod but thats it.

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Problem is not the weight, but the width, at 11 foot you are into having to get permission and cleared route. Even on the motorways you might need an escort as you are a "wide load" and all that applies.

Talk to plod, they will know what permissions are required, restrictions on movement hours and the like. But you will need to know where the boat is going before they can give you any concrete help.

With cranes at both ends and a special transport it will not be a cheap haul. Much better and cheaper if you can get it to it destination by water.

Surely just about every one of the (for example) 12 foot 6 inch Liverpool Boat wide-beams that now grace the Southern waterways must have got here on the back of a lorry ?

 

This can't be such a hard thing to arrange, as I can't ever recall hearing massive debate about the logistics of such an operation, and there are certainly a lot of very wide wide-beams that are unlikely to have got here other than by road.

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Dear all, hello! I have my widebeam (11ft wide, 50ft long weighing 28 tonnes) up for sale in London on a residential mooring. Due to this economic mess we're in it's very quite. Therefore I decided to move it to where my new job is starting in the interim period in Oxfordshire trouble is... I can't find a widebeam mooring on the web anywhere in he lart of the world Any hints? Know of any private moorings or end of a field/garden? Also does anyone know of a haulage company that haul that size of boat? Is it even possible to road haul this vessel there? Seems to be a 40 tonne limit!? more grief! Which is all owning this boat has been for 8 yrs.. Exspensive and can't do anything with it due to climate.

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Mark

 

My company arranges and assists in the movement of abnormal loads, and im regulary involved in the transport of large boats. Couple of pics if anyones intrested:

Whittens

 

Glogau

 

Parol Transport

 

We often are involved in moving wide beams/dutch barges from variuos destinations in Europe and take them to the Thames & Kennett Marina at Reading. If you need any info or help just PM me.

 

Rob

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Its not a massive debate, its a consideration.

Cleared route is one that is defined as not presenting unknown problems for loads of a given size.

 

Use a haulier who is used to moving wider boats and it will be a lot easier than getting the guy with an empty flat bed who is used to moving 8foot containers around.

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West London to Oxford - go by river! Whats all the fuss about haulage? A tank of diesel and a relaxed week cruising!

 

 

or if you can't do it yourself I bet there are people on here that would do it for you much cheaper than hire of cranes, transport etc. Alan might offer to tow it with Sickle for the experience? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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My company arranges and assists in the movement of abnormal loads, and im regulary involved in the transport of large boats. Couple of pics if anyones intrested:

Whittens

 

Glogau

 

Parol Transport

 

We often are involved in moving wide beams/dutch barges from variuos destinations in Europe and take them to the Thames & Kennett Marina at Reading. If you need any info or help just PM me.

 

Rob

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Parglena was moved by road forom yorkshire to MK she was at the time 50' x 11'6 so 11ft is not the limit.

From a quick google it seems to be 4.3m or roughly 14ft

They did have to file a "flight plan" with the plod but thats it.

 

Black Rose was moved from Liverpool to Reading on a lorry without any kind of escort and it's 12' wide x 57' long. Just the lorry driver and his kid.

 

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I didn't really understand the OP. Why doesn't he just move it from W London to Oxford on the river?

 

Surely just about every one of the (for example) 12 foot 6 inch Liverpool Boat wide-beams that now grace the Southern waterways must have got here on the back of a lorry ?

 

I don't think LB ever made 12' 6" beams. Their widebeams were either 10, 11 or 12ft wide. I'd say 90% were 10ft.

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Parglena was moved by road forom yorkshire to MK she was at the time 50' x 11'6 so 11ft is not the limit.

From a quick google it seems to be 4.3m or roughly 14ft

They did have to file a "flight plan" with the plod but thats it.

 

 

We have had about 6 barges roaded down from "the North", and the only one we had to have an escort for was Clinton which was a 14'7" wide Trent barge. It arrived at Brentford, followed down the high street by a train of traffic, and with good wishes chalked on the side by the Cambridgeshire police at its enforced overnight stop in a layby there. We also pushed the limits of locks on the GU and Regents/Paddington Arm. "Clinton" was dropped in at the FMC basin at Brentford but despite our best efforts would not come up the GU Hanwell locks to our basin at Adelaide Dock in Southall. We had to take her around via Limehouse and up that way, as the London locks are rather wider. It might not now be possible as the North Circular Aqueduct has been rebuilt to a narrower guage. Our Dutch Beurtschip "Friesland" is 80' x 13'10", and we came up the Thames and in at Brentford, and that did come up the Hanwell locks. The Hanwell locks mostly have a curved top cill, but a couple have had new cill fendering which reduced the effective length or we could have kept "Frieland" at her original length of about 82'6".

 

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I don't think LB ever made 12' 6" beams. Their widebeams were either 10, 11 or 12ft wide. I'd say 90% were 10ft.

My genuine mistake then - I genuinely thought that's what one like yours was.

 

Because of the time it would take, a commercial tow would probably be more expensive than going by lorry.

Have we actually established this thing needs towing ?

 

That is that it can't move under its own power ?

 

If it can be navigated, assuming stoppages don't preclude it, I feel sure one of the boat movers who posts on here would do it for less money than a crane and lorry operation.

 

I agree a tow is less likely to be cost effective, as towing boat has got to get to this one, and return to wherever it is based.

 

I never understood the "Exspensive and can't do anything with it due to climate" comment in the first post - has that been explained since ?

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snapback.pngChris-B, on 26 October 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

 

If the op needs it towed then he could contact

james@jm-marine.net

 

Chris-B

 

No trade connection just somebody I know

Or M.t.Major who is a member here.

 

 

 

 

David

 

 

 

One and the same person !

Chris-B

 

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Mind you the op has not been heard of since the original post ....

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Have we actually established this thing needs towing ?

 

That is that it can't move under its own power ?

 

 

Don't think so - Just my humorous? suggestion that you might offer to move it with Sickle :captain:

It was a very peculiar post - Lady Muck probably hit the nail on the head suggesting it is someone with very limited knowledge of the waterway system and what boats are for.

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