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Noticed an interesting phenomenon when the water in the cut is low. When passing boats in the opposite direction many are reluctant to move over from the middle of the cut to pass. Especially on The Ashby, we have been forced on to the mud several times by an on coming boat refusing to move even a slightest bit to the right.

 

These were all private boats with the one notable exception of a Valley Cruiser hire boat who moved over and actually grounded himself on the mud.

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Noticed an interesting phenomenon when the water in the cut is low. When passing boats in the opposite direction many are reluctant to move over from the middle of the cut to pass. Especially on The Ashby, we have been forced on to the mud several times by an on coming boat refusing to move even a slightest bit to the right.

 

These were all private boats with the one notable exception of a Valley Cruiser hire boat who moved over and actually grounded himself on the mud.

 

Give them half a boat width plus a bit and slow right down. It is a test of bottle but any collision will be their fault as you will have given them more than enough room.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

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Give them half a boat width plus a bit and slow right down. It is a test of bottle but any collision will be their fault as you will have given them more than enough room.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

Great tip must remember that one thanks

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We regularly go through the (*loody heavy)road swingbridge at Foxton, and I'm convinced that single-handed boaters lurk there waiting for innocents like us to appear. Last time we opened it, despite not seeing another boat following us, two boat appeared and sped cheerily through, just about to close it and another comes the other way so we held it open.

Luckily, our philosophy is that we are not in any hurry, and exercise is good for you.

I sincerely pity anyone that is going anywhere in a narrowboat IN A HURRY, that's not what they are good at :)

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Noticed an interesting phenomenon when the water in the cut is low. When passing boats in the opposite direction many are reluctant to move over from the middle of the cut to pass. Especially on The Ashby, we have been forced on to the mud several times by an on coming boat refusing to move even a slightest bit to the right.

 

These were all private boats with the one notable exception of a Valley Cruiser hire boat who moved over and actually grounded himself on the mud.

 

DId they refuse to move over, or did they leave it until the last moment.

 

Quite often, people believe that an approaching boat that doesn't move over by half a boat width well before meeting is hogging the centre. In truth he could actually know what he is doing.

 

Moving over too early means that you are running out of the channel for a prolonged period, and more likely to ground. As such, in shallow waters, the best prospect of passing without grounding is to do the "dance".

 

Both boats keep to their line, until almost upon each other, when both turn right, to move towards the edge of the canal.

 

As they come alongside each other, they both turn back left so they continue parallel to the bank.

 

The venturi effect will cause both bows to start to move towards the centre of the canal , without any further tiller input, which will allow the bow to return to centre without putting the stern into shallow water.

 

Once the boats have passed, a correction to the right is made again, to bring the stern back out into the centre.

 

This has certain advantages;

  1. All movements towards the banks take place on the slightly deeper water as the two bow waves meet, giving additional depth.
  2. The stern is towards the shallows for a minumum time
  3. Both boats regain the channel without steering the stern into the shallows.

 

 

 

 

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DId they refuse to move over, or did they leave it until the last moment.

 

Quite often, people believe that an approaching boat that doesn't move over by half a boat width well before meeting is hogging the centre. In truth he could actually know what he is doing.

 

Moving over too early means that you are running out of the channel for a prolonged period, and more likely to ground. As such, in shallow waters, the best prospect of passing without grounding is to do the "dance".

 

Both boats keep to their line, until almost upon each other, when both turn right, to move towards the edge of the canal.

 

As they come alongside each other, they both turn back left so they continue parallel to the bank.

 

The venturi effect will cause both bows to start to move towards the centre of the canal , without any further tiller input, which will allow the bow to return to centre without putting the stern into shallow water.

 

Once the boats have passed, a correction to the right is made again, to bring the stern back out into the centre.

 

This has certain advantages;

  1. All movements towards the banks take place on the slightly deeper water as the two bow waves meet, giving additional depth.
  2. The stern is towards the shallows for a minumum time
  3. Both boats regain the channel without steering the stern into the shallows.

 

The first time I steered a narrowboat I had only gone a short distance when I noticed a nb about 300 yard ahead stuck on the mud, he gave me a funny look when I passed and it was only later I realised that he had prematurely tried to go to his right when he saw me approaching :lol:

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And Phylis will be along soon with the officially recognised procedure.

 

...which will involve boaters on narrow canals steering a course so as to pass each other at a distance of 3 cables, and at a speed of not less than 30 knots, whilst deploying festoons of lurid pink bollocks in little knitted cardigans along either side of the boat, all without spilling the afternoon pinkers.

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:cheers: david,you forgot to say that their turbochargers should be used at full pressure,and the standard TUPPERWARE NAVY SALUTE should be carried out as the passing vessels "STEP UP" TO PLANING SPEED!

 

Well, I assumed that to be obvious!

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Phylis please don't ever give these men what they are asking for. Their torture is priceless. Sue

But Sue no-one can pass through a lift bridge until we know. People are dieing out there!

 

Noticed an interesting phenomenon when the water in the cut is low. When passing boats in the opposite direction many are reluctant to move over from the middle of the cut to pass. Especially on The Ashby, we have been forced on to the mud several times by an on coming boat refusing to move even a slightest bit to the right.

 

These were all private boats with the one notable exception of a Valley Cruiser hire boat who moved over and actually grounded himself on the mud.

 

The Ashby is noted for it (not moving) and having seen a boat that got 15' from a bank nearly turn over (you should have heard the crashes from inside) I don't blame them. We reckoned the shallowed edges was down to all the holes - we assumed vole-holes.

 

But don't lets change the subject - lets hear how we should do these bridges.

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<br />DId they refuse to move over, or did they leave it until the last moment.<br /><br />Quite often, people believe that an approaching boat that doesn't move over by half a boat width well before meeting is hogging the centre. In truth he could actually know what he is doing.<br /><br />Moving over too early means that you are running out of the channel for a prolonged period, and more likely to ground. As such, in shallow waters, the best prospect of passing without grounding is to do the &quot;dance&quot;.<br /><br />Both boats keep to their line, until almost upon each other, when both turn right, to move towards the edge of the canal.<br /><br />As they come alongside each other, they both turn back left so they continue parallel to the bank.<br /><br />The venturi effect will cause both bows to start to move towards the centre of the canal , without any further tiller input, which will allow the bow to return to centre without putting the stern into shallow water.<br /><br />Once the boats have passed, a correction  to the right is made again, to bring the stern back out into the centre.<br /><br />This has certain advantages;<br /><ol class='bbcol decimal'><li>All movements towards the banks take place on the slightly deeper water as the two bow waves meet, giving additional depth.</li><li>The stern is towards the shallows for a minumum time</li><li>Both boats regain the channel without steering the stern into the shallows.</li></ol><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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Good advice, thanks Dave.

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But Sue no-one can pass through a lift bridge until we know. People are dieing out there!

 

 

 

The Ashby is noted for it (not moving) and having seen a boat that got 15' from a bank nearly turn over (you should have heard the crashes from inside) I don't blame them. We reckoned the shallowed edges was down to all the holes - we assumed vole-holes.

 

But don't lets change the subject - lets hear how we should do these bridges.

 

Indeed.

 

Is Cornwall to be spared?

Will Phylis return home?

Will the massed hordes throw caution to the winds, and pass through bridges without waiting for the answer?

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