truckcab79 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 minute ago, mrsmelly said: The internet is only as good as the information on it that has been placed there by people with experience. I use tinternet a lot to check stuff. Look at the show us your van thread on here and see how I managed to fix my van after talking to a youngster who because of his age ( not his fault ) didnt have a clue and he is a mechanic. Thats the point. The internet is a vast pool of information. A far more sensible resource than 6 self-opinionated stuck in the 1940’s old duffers regurgitating the same tired old opinions and information and kicking off when anyone questions their knowledge. If they can’t give the info in an open-minded and generous way then they shouldn’t bother - but…. they can’t stop as it gives their life a meaning and self-importance that they desire or need. To admit that they don’t know anything or that someone might know more is anathema to them. In reality they need the forum (and I don’t mean this forum especially), more than the forum needs them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, MtB said: I remember getting my first boat aged 22 and as a young engineer felt I knew it all and the fuddy-duddy hide-bound world of boating would be fertile ground for all my new ideas and open-minded thinking. Curiously the longer I have owned boats for, the more I have discovered the wisdom in doing <whatever> the same way as it has always been done and not my new, super-imaginative and clever engineer way. Sometimes the old ways -- often based on years of real-life experience -- are still the best. But other times new solutions which weren't available at the time are better. Plenty of examples of this in boating, as in many other areas. Refusing to acknowledge this is being closed-minded, not superior... 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, IanD said: Sometimes the old ways -- often based on years of real-life experience -- are still the best. But other times new solutions which weren't available at the time are better. Plenty of examples of this in boating, as in many other areas. Refusing to acknowledge this is being closed-minded, not superior... 😉 I do agree. And I'm very impressed with your Schilling rudder. Not that I would ever tell you, obviously 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, MtB said: I do agree. And I'm very impressed with your Schilling rudder. Not that I would ever tell you, obviously Not exactly new though, IIRC the patent I nicked the design from is more than 50 years old -- so that must mean it's the old way of doing it... 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) 4 hours ago, truckcab79 said: Blocked her ages ago. Sounds like she got some of her own finally. 👍 The woman is a very experienced person, however, if you even bothered to read some posts, she has been ill for some time, and some people, not people like you, obviously, take this into account. PS I have you on my ignore list, can you understand why? Obviously not. Edited August 7 by LadyG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tonka said: Can you stop picking on @IanD. I thought that was my job I thought being a troll was your job? 😉 In case you disagree (and I expect you will, with your usual intelligent wit and repartee) I'm sure anyone who wants to could search through your posts, note how many -- like that one -- were deliberately provocative and contained no useful content, and draw their own conclusions about the accuracy of this label... 🙂 Edited August 7 by IanD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peugeot 106 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, truckcab79 said: Thats the point. The internet is a vast pool of information. A far more sensible resource than 6 self-opinionated stuck in the 1940’s old duffers regurgitating the same tired old opinions and information and kicking off when anyone questions their knowledge. If they can’t give the info in an open-minded and generous way then they shouldn’t bother - but…. they can’t stop as it gives their life a meaning and self-importance that they desire or need. To admit that they don’t know anything or that someone might know more is anathema to them. In reality they need the forum (and I don’t mean this forum especially), more than the forum needs them. Truckcab some of your posts can be useful and you can be quite amusing BUT it’s not ALL about you? (sorry mate but someone had to say it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckcab79 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 6 minutes ago, LadyG said: The woman is a very experienced person, however, if you even bothered to read some posts, she has been ill for some time, and some people, not people like you, obviously, take this into account. PS I have you on my ignore list, can you understand why? Obviously not. You’re not doing a very good job of ignoring me. 😂 I’m aware of her illness. When she was laying into me in her usual disgusting way previously, several members sent me PM’s apologising for her and pointing this out. As I replied to them at the time, you can be ill and treat people decently or you can be ill and be a ***t. We all make that choice regardless of our circumstances. It’s no excuse. Course, you won’t see this reply. 😉 Look forward to more of your posts. Maybe your kitchen progress? 👍 1 minute ago, Peugeot 106 said: Truckcab some of your posts can be useful and you can be quite amusing BUT it’s not ALL about you? (sorry mate but someone had to say it) Doing my best. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 21 minutes ago, IanD said: the patent I nicked the design from Er, isn't that the whole point of the patent system? You share the knowledge with everyone and for that get the exclusive right to it for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 Just now, TheBiscuits said: Er, isn't that the whole point of the patent system? You share the knowledge with everyone and for that get the exclusive right to it for a while. Of course -- but my point was that fifty years old is hardly new technology... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 Just now, IanD said: Of course -- but my point was that fifty years old is hardly new technology... 😉 Cheaper to copy too after the patent has expired! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 minute ago, TheBiscuits said: Cheaper to copy too after the patent has expired! 😁 Free is the cheapest... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, IanD said: Free is the cheapest... 😉 I didn't think your rudder was free, I thought it quite expensive compared to a flat blade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted August 7 Author Report Share Posted August 7 37 minutes ago, LadyG said: PS I have you on my ignore list, can you understand why? Obviously not. remind yourself why you put them on ignore 😃 and ignore them, I’ve had an ignore list for less than a day now but I seem to understand it better than you who has always kept one. remind yourself; do not peak do not engage do not weaken they’ve nothing to offer, on a lighter note I am drinking a pint while listening to a song of the same name, what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 16 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I didn't think your rudder was free, I thought it quite expensive compared to a flat blade Oh it was, but the *design* was free... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted August 7 Author Report Share Posted August 7 A clue would be helpful, I guess: Robert Plant and a Stannah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said: A clue would be helpful, I guess: Robert Plant and a Stannah Stairway to Heaven...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted August 7 Author Report Share Posted August 7 Yes, Led Zeppelin and Stairway to Heaven Church End Brewery do a great pint. It’s usually on offer at the Swan, Brewood. And the George at Stoke Golding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, IanD said: Oh it was, but the *design* was free... 😉 Without going up to London, I found that patent quite difficult to find online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo47 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Cheaper to copy too after the patent has expired! 😁 A private individual does not have to wait until a patent has expired to make use of its teachings, as long as what is done is solely for private, non-commercial use. A patent can only be enforced against those who exploit it in commercial activities. S. 60 Patents Act 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 8 hours ago, Peanut said: Without going up to London, I found that patent quite difficult to find online. Easy to find online -- search on Espacenet (the EPO database) which is free to use and has all worldwide patents on it, put "Schilling" in the inventor field and "rudder" in title should get you there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peugeot 106 Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 7 hours ago, Ronaldo47 said: A private individual does not have to wait until a patent has expired to make use of its teachings, as long as what is done is solely for private, non-commercial use. A patent can only be enforced against those who exploit it in commercial activities. S. 60 Patents Act 1977. I’m glad about that as I made reefing gear for my sailing dinghy on the local Tech lathes copying photos and the recent patent! Often wondered where I stood legally but it’s only for me so OK. I did feel a bit guilty though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ronaldo47 said: A private individual does not have to wait until a patent has expired to make use of its teachings, as long as what is done is solely for private, non-commercial use. A patent can only be enforced against those who exploit it in commercial activities. S. 60 Patents Act 1977. That wouldn't be good news for either Tim Tyler or Finesse then, since they were paid for the rudder... 😉 (if the patent hadn't expired, which of course it had...) Edited August 8 by IanD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Midnight Posted August 8 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 8 Back on topic "Come back Tracy many of us miss you and aren't soft enough to put you on ignore" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 5 minutes ago, Midnight said: Back on topic "Come back Tracy many of us miss you and aren't soft enough to put you on ignore" Perhaps she doesn't get on with her son. So if he is on here then she isn't. Nowt so strange as families Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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