If you/me do we can cry into a couple of beers and swap commiserations around Summit. Of course I will have done the swamp and you will have it to do. You will be a lot happier cos you will have done Yorkshire. I, on the other hand, I will be depressed having suffered the dark side. We can have a sweep over number of visits down the weed hatch over fifty in Rochdale and Manchester. How about a prize for the most disgusting item removed from the propeller? I'm well experienced on that score. Can you beat razor wire?