Clean the Rivers up....Raab and Coffey

[matty40s]

No, it's not stopping sewage pumping or taking action against the water companies....you can see the priorities these eminent politicians have.

Oh, and today the GB triathlon team have had to abandon their training camp on the River Wyre due to sewage and chemical levels in the River Wyre at Fleetwood.

Latest sea sewage dumping map, happy holidays...

 

Edited August 3, 2023 by matty40s

[Stilllearning]

1 hour ago, matty40s said:

No, it's not stopping sewage pumping or taking action against the water companies....you can see the priorities these eminent politicians have.

Oh, and today the GB triathlon team have had to abandon their training camp on the River Wyre due to sewage and chemical levels in the River Wyre at Fleetwood.

Latest sea sewage dumping map, happy holidays...

 

The depressing fact is that some members here will still vote for them, come the next opportunity to throw them out.

[robtheplod]

Can they hear each other stood so far away?

[ditchcrawler]

32 minutes ago, Stilllearning said:

The depressing fact is that some members here will still vote for them, come the next opportunity to throw them out.

And do you think the others will invest enough in the infrastructure to stop the sewage dumping

[Stilllearning]

14 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

And do you think the others will invest enough in the infrastructure to stop the sewage dumping

I have no idea, but this lot haven't.

[Hudds Lad]

19 minutes ago, robtheplod said:

Can they hear each other stood so far away?

Would you want to stand within close proximity of either of them?

[Stilllearning]

17 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

Would you want to stand within close proximity of either of them?

I'd be wearing a hazmat suit if I

absolutely had to be there, otherwise, I'm near enough now.

[MtB]

2 hours ago, Stilllearning said:

The depressing fact is that some members here will still vote for them, come the next opportunity to throw them out.

 

No, the really depressing fact is that grim as they are, the current lot are the best available. 

 

If you think things are bad now, stand by to see the economy really trashed when Starmer's lot get in. 

 

 

[Stilllearning]

17 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

No, the really depressing fact is that grim as they are, the current lot are the best available. 

 

If you think things are bad now, stand by to see the economy really trashed when Starmer's lot get in. 

 

 

I shall avoid the obvious trap of bringing this thread into political disrepute. I merely think of 13 years of nothing being done to improve sewerage, or poo in rivers and on beaches and remind you to be careful what you wish for. 

[MtB]

4 minutes ago, Stilllearning said:

I shall avoid the obvious trap of bringing this thread into political disrepute. I merely think of 13 years of nothing being done to improve sewerage, or poo in rivers and on beaches and remind you to be careful what you wish for. 

 

These are trivial complaints in the big scheme of things.

 

Mortgage costs rocketing, repossessions rocketing, wages stagnating/falling behind, food inflation running at 17%, core inflation still 7%+. Rents almost doubled in the last three years. People being thrown out of their homes. NHS crumbling. Russia invading Ukraine, and poo in the rivers is the thing most important to you?!

[Stilllearning]

5 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

These are trivial complaints in the big scheme of things.

 

Mortgage costs rocketing, repossessions rocketing, wages stagnating/falling behind, food inflation running at 17%, core inflation still 7%+. Rents almost doubled in the last three years. People being thrown out of their homes. NHS crumbling. Russia invading Ukraine, and poo in the rivers is the thing most important to you?!

The clue to my reply is in the thread title.

[alan_fincher]

1 hour ago, MtB said:

 

No, the really depressing fact is that grim as they are, the current lot are the best available. 

 

If you think things are bad now, stand by to see the economy really trashed when Starmer's lot get in.

 

I'm certainly no fan of "Starmers lot", aka "Tory Lite", but they would have some challenge to do the same damage as was achieved in just a week or two by Truss / Kwarteng.

[matty40s]

6 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

And do you think the others will invest enough in the infrastructure to stop the sewage dumping

When you are paying billions out in shareholder and director bonuses, perhaps a set of properly run and regulated water companies should be investing themselves.

[Arthur Marshall]

3 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

I'm certainly no fan of "Starmers lot", aka "Tory Lite", but they would have some challenge to do the same damage as was achieved in just a week or two by Truss / Kwarteng.

Or, of course, for the constant downward trajectory of virtually everything over the last ten years. I'd be intrigued to see a list of how most of us are better off.

[matty40s]

Back on topic,  it would be interesting to see if these Elmbridge moorings are actually illegal, or that is just another lazy use of the word also used to terrorise the asylum seekers.

[Arthur Marshall]

4 hours ago, MtB said:

 

No, the really depressing fact is that grim as they are, the current lot are the best available. 

 

If you think things are bad now, stand by to see the economy really trashed when Starmer's lot get in. 

 

 

It makes you wonder what the "economy" is for, if we all just get worse off, the roads fall to bits, people do their own dentistry and the only growth industry is food banks.

Interesting news is that Wilko's are going into bankruptcy having managed to pay their family owners three million quid in dividends last year . Awful when you can't make a business pay.

[IanD]

7 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

It makes you wonder what the "economy" is for, if we all just get worse off, the roads fall to bits, people do their own dentistry and the only growth industry is food banks.

Interesting news is that Wilko's are going into bankruptcy having managed to pay their family owners three million quid in dividends last year . Awful when you can't make a business pay.

But it did pay *them*, which is all that matters, surely? 😞

Edited August 3, 2023 by IanD

[matty40s]

Here's an obvious example, Athys favourite water shares...

another problem with this new sewage plant is that Anglia Water will own this in its entirety, thus adding to their capital assets sheet, thus more bonus payouts...

[Tonka]

38 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Back on topic,  it would be interesting to see if these Elmbridge moorings are actually illegal, or that is just another lazy use of the word also used to terrorise the asylum seekers.

Are these the ones where the boaters are claiming the towpath which is not registered to anyone is going to be theirs in 7 years timr

[magnetman]

43 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Back on topic,  it would be interesting to see if these Elmbridge moorings are actually illegal, or that is just another lazy use of the word also used to terrorise the asylum seekers.

The problem is that the council don't have powers to control moorings. 

 

It isn't "illegal moorings" it is "moorings we can not control". 

 

This is the basic problem..

 

Richmond and Hounslow applied for and got byelaws to control moorings. Elmbridge are looking at the Public Space Protection Order option. 

 

A bit of googling unearths quite a lot of information on this situation. 

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

5 hours ago, MtB said:

 

These are trivial complaints in the big scheme of things.

 

Mortgage costs rocketing, repossessions rocketing, wages stagnating/falling behind, food inflation running at 17%, core inflation still 7%+. Rents almost doubled in the last three years. People being thrown out of their homes. NHS crumbling. Russia invading Ukraine, and poo in the rivers is the thing most important to you?!

 

Why should an exile (20 years ? since leaving the UK) be concerned about who is in power in the Uk and what they are, or are not, doing. Maybe he should worry about Macron.

[magnetman]

Everyone should worry about rich kids installed as puppet leaders. 

[Ex Brummie]

The regulators and Civil Servants are responsible for rectifying this situation. The laws are already in place and just need enforcing. 

I wish i could get a job on one of these quangos; all the well paid salaries, or even worse, generous non taxable expenses without any responsibility.

[Tonka]

So they are not cleaning the river up, just trying to get rid of the linger longers where there is a tory mp

[matty40s]

2 hours ago, magnetman said:

The problem is that the council don't have powers to control moorings. 

 

It isn't "illegal moorings" it is "moorings we can not control". 

 

This is the basic problem..

 

Richmond and Hounslow applied for and got byelaws to control moorings. Elmbridge are looking at the Public Space Protection Order option. 

 

A bit of googling unearths quite a lot of information on this situation. 

 

 

Thankyou, so it's the usual T%$£ lies then