Heartland Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 In Peter Lead's book on the Trent & Mersey Canal, there is a photo of an experimental tug for ice breaking. The image is from the H C James Collection and it is just possible to make out the "L" on the side of the cabin. As there is a reference in the Waterways Archive (CRT) for a design for a LMS combined icebreaker and tug this image would appear to suggest that the boat was built and used. This was at the time, it seems of Government Control during the war. The question is what happened to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 12/07/2020 at 12:54, Heartland said: In Peter Lead's book on the Trent & Mersey Canal, there is a photo of an experimental tug for ice breaking. The image is from the H C James Collection and it is just possible to make out the "L" on the side of the cabin. As there is a reference in the Waterways Archive (CRT) for a design for a LMS combined icebreaker and tug this image would appear to suggest that the boat was built and used. This was at the time, it seems of Government Control during the war. The question is what happened to it? It isn't Sandbach or Beeston, which were built in 1946 with wheelhouse steering. Could it perhaps be ROAMA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Yes I think it is the Roama/Roamer/ Tug No 1 built by Yarwoods in timber in 1938/39 with a Russell Newberry It survived until fairly recently but Now seems to have disappeared although there are confusingly two steel replicas which often get mistaken for it. Paul The above pics show the original tug, the first not long after it was built and the second in preservation in the 80s or 90s when visiting Ellesmere Port. Edited July 13, 2020 by Paul H 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Yes, It does look like the tug at Etruria Is there a history of this craft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Also, according to HECLA the craft SANDBACH & BEESTON were built for the Shropshire Union in LMS days The BCN co BIRD was also a wheehouse steering boat, as was NANSEN II (originally) According to Clive Guthries list 1999 for Yarwoods, ROAMER was built for the LMS in 1999 Edited July 15, 2020 by Heartland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agg221 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 For reference (as quite a few people appear to be looking for it) the original Roama still exists. It is under long term restoration by a friend of mine, and is sat in my back garden which is why nobody has seen it lately. For reference, the BCN ice boat North Star (renamed Samson) is also sat in my back garden. Alec 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Beats flowers, and you don't have to cut the grass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 It is nice to know that the craft still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 15/07/2020 at 10:22, Heartland said: According to Clive Guthries list 1999 for Yarwoods, ROAMER was built for the LMS in 1999 22 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, zenataomm said: 22 years ago? No, that's the plate thickness. Very robustly built, those icebreakers were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agg221 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just now, Athy said: No, that's the plate thickness. Very robustly built, those icebreakers were. Roama is wooden... Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Oooooo, i’ve seen one of those, August this year between Atherstone and Polesworth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 55 minutes ago, agg221 said: Roama is wooden... Alec Tee-hee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agg221 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 15/07/2020 at 10:22, Heartland said: Also, according to HECLA the craft SANDBACH & BEESTON were built for the Shropshire Union in LMS days The BCN co BIRD was also a wheehouse steering boat, as was NANSEN II (originally) According to Clive Guthries list 1999 for Yarwoods, ROAMER was built for the LMS in 1999 The plans of Byrd still exist, as do the descriptions of the engine trials. It's Byrd after Richard Byrd the polar explorer. All the BCN iceboats and icebreaking tugs had names associated with something cold - a location, population or explorer. Nansen II was the replacement for the wooden Nansen which was broken up. Fridtjof Nansen, another polar explorer. Full list of the BCN iceboats and icebreaking tugs at: https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/112527-bcn-iceboats/ Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) On 25/09/2021 at 16:22, Hudds Lad said: Oooooo, i’ve seen one of those, August this year between Atherstone and Polesworth Interesting, the black edging has been painted out in the last couple of weeks. This from 12th September I must admit given the slack line I didn’t think moved when we passed another boat I had thought she had sunk 😕Looks like someone’s working on her. Edited September 27, 2021 by Stroudwater1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 I spoke to the owner as I passed last weekend. It's sat firmly on the bottom but not because it's sunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 Nor has the owl moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, zenataomm said: Nor has the owl moved. It was waiting for it’s battery delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Crumbs! Its got a massive cat living in it. Look at the size of the catflap in the front bulkhead! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 The boat astern must be owned by a Portsmouth supporter. Play up Pompey, Pompey play up! they sing at matches. Funnily enough sounds like it is chanted in a northern accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nightwatch said: The boat astern must be owned by a Portsmouth supporter. Play up Pompey, Pompey play up! they sing at matches. Funnily enough sounds like it is chanted in a northern accent. Its also got a celebratory FA cup winners 2008 motif on the side, its Portsmouth FC through and through. I nearly snapped it as well but I just couldn't bring myself to😃 Edited September 28, 2021 by Stroudwater1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Bee said: Crumbs! Its got a massive cat living in it. Look at the size of the catflap in the front bulkhead! That's actually a normal size catflap. The boat really is that small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 It does remind be of a birds beak. Not a boat for the river. Even the diminutive MAYFLOWER at 6' beam looks larger. I seem to recall it had a water cooled Lister(?) complete with radiator in the front end. Tied at 'The Ship' shop Maffers, early eighties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Passed another Roama the other day moored at Barbridge. Edited July 2, 2022 by Stroudwater1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 Isn't that the original one? Wooden, formerly bolinder pup powered. Or is that a copy of the original one, and the other one is a copy of that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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