GUMPY Posted July 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, F DRAYKE said: Have seen this quite a lot recently, padlocks on rear doors whilst people on board. A padlock at the back doesn't always mean that you cant get out, if the padlock is on the slide rails then often slide can be lifted and rear doors opened. Edited July 19, 2019 by Loddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittenham Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 what is the CW consensus on a lock like this? I had never seen one until I bought a boat. It joins a side hatch, with a panel on the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wittenham said: what is the CW consensus on a lock like this? I had never seen one until I bought a boat. It joins a side hatch, with a panel on the roof. Someones managed to nick the boat and leave your lock behind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Wittenham said: what is the CW consensus on a lock like this? I had never seen one until I bought a boat. It joins a side hatch, with a panel on the roof. Sorry is it on the inside or outside? Anything that locks you in from the outside is bad news. Side hatches are useful escape routes. I know lots of boats don't have side hatches, but if you do then ideally they need to be locked from the inside. If it's on the inside it looks fine but you don't really need anything with a key. An ordinary bolt would do the same job. Whatever you fit ideally it wouldn't just be screwed into the wooden lining because it may simply get ripped out if the door or hatch is prized open with a lever (crowbar, big screwdriver, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittenham Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, blackrose said: Sorry is it on the inside or outside? Anything that locks you in from the outside is bad news. Side hatches are useful escape routes. I know lots of boats don't have side hatches, but if you do then ideally they need to be locked from the inside. If it's on the inside it looks fine but you don't really need anything with a key. An ordinary bolt would do the same job. Whatever you fit ideally it wouldn't just be screwed into the wooden lining because it may simply get ripped out if the door or hatch is prized open with a lever (crowbar, big screwdriver, etc). It is how the boat is locked from the outside when i am not on it. The flange surrounding the key slot is all that is visible, the rest is buried inside the steel of the top and side hatches. Seems secure enough to me, but wondered if there was some 'bic pen cap/kryptonite bike lock' scenario that made them easy to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Can I just ask any thieves who have been attracted by the title of this thread to use the key in my gas locker, please? It would be such a bother having to repair the doors or windows. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, Mac of Cygnet said: Can I just ask any thieves who have been attracted by the title of this thread to use the key in my gas locker, please? It would be such a bother having to repair the doors or windows. Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: Will do. Too late, I already have!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Too late, I already have!! You must have had to make a very long journey for little result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mac of Cygnet said: You must have had to make a very long journey for little result. Not sure what you mean. Did you not know about all the gold bars hidden under your bed??!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Vagabond Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Not sure what you mean. Did you not know about all the gold bars hidden under your bed??!! ? Oh god, have you nicked his ballast?? the boat will be unstable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wittenham said: It is how the boat is locked from the outside when i am not on it. The flange surrounding the key slot is all that is visible, the rest is buried inside the steel of the top and side hatches. Seems secure enough to me, but wondered if there was some 'bic pen cap/kryptonite bike lock' scenario that made them easy to open. But what's the point of locking side hatches from the outside when they should be easy enough to secure from the inside? Then you wouldn't have to worry about whether the lock was vulnerable. The danger of external locks is that you might forget to open them when you board the boat. I don't know if those side hatches are your main entry/exit point, but if not can you hand on heart say that you've always unlocked them every time you've boarded the boat? I have an external lock on the bow doors but they're my main entry point to the boat so when I'm home those doors aren't ever locked from the outside. Edited July 19, 2019 by blackrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Wanderer Vagabond said: Oh god, have you nicked his ballast?? the boat will be unstable now. No not all of it. I left they grey coloured stuff behind. Didn't want to appear greedy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: No not all of it. I left they grey coloured stuff behind. Didn't want to appear greedy.... Oh, if you left the platinum I'll pop up and get it later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: Oh, if you left the platinum I'll pop up and get it later... Not platinum.Haggis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, haggis said: Not platinum.Haggis I agree, the grey stuff did look like haggis..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbfiresprite Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Not sure what you mean. Did you not know about all the gold bars hidden under your bed??!! ? You mean the bars of lead painted gold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, nbfiresprite said: You mean the bars of lead painted gold? DOH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Vagabond Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, nbfiresprite said: You mean the bars of lead painted gold? Why would you cover gold with lead paint? Edited July 19, 2019 by Wanderer Vagabond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbfiresprite Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wanderer Vagabond said: Why would you cover gold with lead paint? I would not, I would paint bars of lead with gold coloured paint as a decoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittenham Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 hours ago, blackrose said: But what's the point of locking side hatches from the outside when they should be easy enough to secure from the inside? Then you wouldn't have to worry about whether the lock was vulnerable. The danger of external locks is that you might forget to open them when you board the boat. I don't know if those side hatches are your main entry/exit point, but if not can you hand on heart say that you've always unlocked them every time you've boarded the boat? I have an external lock on the bow doors but they're my main entry point to the boat so when I'm home those doors aren't ever locked from the outside. Hand on heart, I have unlocked it every time. But that is because i get on the boat through the side hatch - it is on a permanent mooring. My question is about whether such a lock set up is effective, I had never before seen a bullet lock like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 08:37, Wittenham said: what is the CW consensus on a lock like this? I had never seen one until I bought a boat. It joins a side hatch, with a panel on the roof. More info? Its not clear to me from your photo and descripton how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted July 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, David Mack said: More info? Its not clear to me from your photo and descripton how it works. Still trying to work out how it works on side hatch OK think I might have it. Lock is mounted on side doors, plunger goes through plate on hatch to stop it being lifted, side doors held shut by flange of the hatch ? Edited July 20, 2019 by Loddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittenham Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Loddon said: Still trying to work out how it works on side hatch OK think I might have it. Lock is mounted on side doors, plunger goes through plate on hatch to stop it being lifted, side doors held shut by flange of the hatch ? You got it spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 I came across a large keyed bolt lock in Spain, they are v common and ideal on double doors, I brought a pair over for my double doors front and back. I've since seen them here as gate locks, just fitted one on a pair of garden gates. The difference is that the gate locks are keyed both sides, the Spanish ones had a push button internally. I suppose you'd just leave a key in if you were in. While buying the current gate lock I found they are called cays locks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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