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There appears to more and more people on the cut who are not that interested in boating and don't want to follow the simple rules. The cut is a lovely relaxed place with very few rules, and even those are a bit flexible, but when "boaters" push things too far it goes wrong, and is likely to go wrong for all of us. We now have thug looking baliffs strutting the towpath and helping to remove boats. CRT do not have the staff to enforce the rules against serious objectors and have already had a fatality, so if they decide to hand enforcement over to a private parking company, or even a security company, can we really blame them?. People like George and his supporters are going to make things worse for all of us.

As someone who has lived in the area for more than forty years, with some legal knowledge of the K&A Canal, I can assure you that the land currently occupied by George Ward at "Smelly Bridge" between the towpath and the boundary fence of Barton Farm Country Park is owned by C&RT. It is not private property, so please stop deliberately referring to "Private Property" in an attempt to throw doubt on the land's legal status.

I'll quote everything I reply to, that way it is clear what I am replying to. If you choose to go back and edit posts after I've replied, I won't be going back to read the edits - so its worth taking a breath and completing your posts in full, before pressing "Submit Reply".

This topic is about a geyser who has been "pushing the envelope" with regards to licensing, moving and keeping a boat on CRT controlled waterways. Getting into discussion about legal status of marinas and NAA is off topic. The problem of unlicensed reprobates is going to hit hard and it won't be long before this happens. Discussion needs to be had about what the system should do.

Err, these 2 posts seem to contradict each other. I agree that "morals aren't an easy cut thing", I would argue that if CRT chose to ignore George Ward and let him live on the canals without a license or BSS they would be failing in their moral duty to all the other boaters who do comply, and potentially to the wider society. So to make it really simple, what do you think CRT should have done in this case? (And just saying something about ethics, morals or even accusing CRT of having ignored/broken/circumvented the law in relation to something else is not an answer)

From one end to the udder...

Yes it’ll spoil the imaginative flow ..I want to hear of more slashing and burning, thuggery and wild guessing.

Over the years there have been lots of small companies as well as individuals who have built one, two or a few narrowboat shells, then quietly disappeared. And mostly nobody remembers them or knows which boats they built. And as boat change hands, move to different areas, are refitted, get renamed etc. any connection with their origins gets lost. As that canalplan listing shows its perfectly possible to licence a boat as built by 'unknown', and where boatbuilder information is given it can be wrong. Nobody worries about it. When you are looking at a boat that age, current condition, equipment and facilities is much more important than who built it. And as noted above 'boatbuilder' can refer to the original shell builder, a boat fitter who bought in a shell from elsewhere and fitted it out, or a boat seller that bought in the shell from one third party and contracted the fitting out to another third party then sold the boat in their own name.

Are you sure about that? My 1994 built boat has a 5 figure number and has always had the number since new

I can smell a MNC argument here but doubt this would apply in areas that are not river sections. People who aggressively take the piss of the system should not be tolerated because they put the existence of the waterway at risk. Get rid of these people. If the K&A fills up with entitled smartphone wielding semi-organised freemen on the land it will cause significant cost implications for the CRT and one can't help thinking someone might consider taking proper action to deal with the problem.

Yes it is - I posted a reply to your post. When I pressed the "Quote" button, it took the text and formatting of the post at the time - which was the original. If you subsequently edit a post after I've pressed the "Quote" button, but before I press the "Submit Reply" button, the forum software neither amends the quoted text to update it, nor advises the original post has been edited/updated. I don't go back and review the original post manually (which would need a second browser tab, so as not to lose my unsubmitted reply) so I'd be none the wiser to your edit. But the original post stands, and must stand, and is available to see with the quote function. The onus is on YOU to ensure when you post, you mean what you mean, and don't simply post without thinking things through properly. If your post is not detailed enough or you didn't mean to type what you did, or you want to change its meaning or emphasis, then that must be taken into account BEFORE you originally press the "Submit Reply" button. If you don't, then you are likely going to be ignored or the edit remain unread. Is it a distraction because your argument is weak? Or is it because you're emotive? Or are you yourself unsure of the points your trying to make?

Especially those who live in castles.

Or tie the shower room door knob to the extractor pull cord. Open the door and it turns off the fan!

The canals are in trouble, they are declining at an accelerating rate due to limited finance. We all need to make an increasing contribution in many ways, not just financially. Those who are not willing to contribute, or even worse make a negative contribution, will have to go. In the short term this will cost a lot of money in evictions and legal costs but that has to be done. If the latest figures on global warming are correct then this is all probably irrelevent.

Last Monday. Wells Next The Sea.

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Later boats do indeed have similar to a VIN but that shell will likely pre date that. CIN iirc when I fitted my new hull out several years ago. The exact date evades me and google will be your friend. However not all boats comply and some still do not.

I dunno, when both my ecofans are going it's practically a helicopter!

Do you have any form of battery monitor that can tell you the voltage and amps you are taking from the battery...? How are you telling when the batteries are charged...?

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They are not essential. And fraud is actually allowed. Boat Fitters are actually allowed to say that they have built the boat where in fact they have just fitted. Surely this is fraud.

Yes really has been poor. Fortunately I was able to swap some work around and go and play with boats yesterday where the weather wasn't terrible, which means doing yesterdays work today I genuinely think the biggest challenge and the most key skill involved in getting a project like this done isn't any of the technical aspects, it's being a project manager and ensuring that you have plan A, B and C in place before a session so that no matter what the weather, equipment failure or just random other factors you have the stuff you need to get the job done each time you turn up to the boat. Sometimes I manage it... Proper 70s spec isn't it. As i've said before I think the hull shape of these Fernies is great and I wouldn't be bothering with this work to an ugly boat, but it's definitely worth taking care. I have a tyre with an interesting tread pattern* to be cut up and adapted as a bow fender which should hopefully add a bit of squish to a crash *Bar grip 900*16, if you know you know

She's definitely coming along at pace. Surprised that you've managed to get anything done over the last few weeks with the lousy weather we're having.

The system should be equal. CRT should work as the law gives them authority to do, it does not extend onto private properly. CRT hide behind a third party that are not authorised by statute. They mangle the law. The end.

That is only a simple choice 'yes or no' (not two choices). It is two 'options' tho. Two choices would have three options. Words have specific meanings - particularly when discussing law and contracts.

So you agree with their actions with regard to George Ward. Life is complicated, sometimes people you don't like do things you agree with, and sometimes people you like and think are good people do things you disagree with, if you can't accept that, and simply classify people and organisations as either good or bad life must be very hard. Your inability to engage in reasoned discussion on this forum is meaning you are alienating people who might otherwise agree with you.

Because the owner of the private property gave them authorisation.

The marinas are not free agents. They are obliged, by contract, if they want to continue to have a business.

Will do next time I’m down that way in a few years. Thanks

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@matty40s used to help people in the process of buying, I don't think he does anymore but may be able to suggest someone, a top bloke by the way

You’ve basically got three options of expense/performance. £ - Is a mifi device hung in a window. Performs quite well, is simple and inexpensive. ££ - 4g modem with external antenna. This is what I use….A Huawei B535 and a Poynting 4g external antenna on a short magnetic mount pole. Total cost around £200 and it performs well. Like all line of sight transmissions, performance would improve the higher you can get the antenna. £££ - A 5g modem compatible external antenna. Still quite expensive and probably not worth it at the moment as 5g is generally only available in citys.

If they acted much more quickly to deal with overstayers, then their costs would be substantially lower because it would discourage, rather than encourage others with a similar mindset.