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It really doesn’t.

Struck in the middle of you?

I was under the clearly mistaken impression that this was a discussion forum and that threads either peter out or or stopped by moderators if rules are broken. Last time I visited "over there" the moderation IMO left a lot to be desired and any forum which needed (I assume it has stopped) a thread purely for the purpose of criticising another forum clearly isn't moderating itself terribly well.

This is a pretty depressing and nasty thread, showing a lot of CWDF members at their worse, I was jokingly going to suggest that the mods transfer it to Thunderboat, but it sounds like they are doing it rather better than us. A couple of years ago I sank a canoe driven by a couple of schoolkids, it was just about 100% their fault and they even apologised for causing me trouble, but if they had a camera fitted I do wonder how it might have looked to an inexperienced viewer. ..............Dave

The difference in letter height may be due to computer cut lettering adding a bit above and below the letter line on curved letters such as O, S, C etc. Computer cut fonts over exaggerate the difference to me, intended to give the impression that all letters are equal in height. Vinyl is font perfect if soulless. I can’t paint letters with their precision, nor would I care to. Mine live....

Am I the only one to think that this thread has run its course? I am not judging either person involved apart from saying that there somecontributors to this thread who may need to ask themselves if they have ever been invloved in similar incidents. Throwing the first stone comes to mind. Why not draw a line and move on! Howard

He's Steve's dog! I would have thought he'd keep a male sheep as a pet though.

I am sure they are fine but the ones made in Lancashire are I suggest the best, closely followed by the ones from Wrexham farmers market I would expect so, how else do they prove they are of good character, maybe followed by a bag of pork scratchings

It really all goes to show that journalists have no moral compass. To publically spout about bullying and rude behaviour, then give the best illustration of the same, really does take the biscuit. I can be a surly bar steward. But only when faced with blatant stupidity by people who proclaim they know better. We all make mistakes on occasion, yes even owners! You apologise, move on. But this chap did not get it wrong . His action was deliberate . He is a journalist, the self proclaimed voice of canal and river etiquette, then used his public platform to justify himself, denigrating the other party. That I find unforgivable.

He definitely has the air of someone who has practised being obnoxious throughout his life, one of snap on's finest - a top quality tool.

Here's Whitby and Pictor going round the turn single handed at Hawkesbury in 1980. Who it is steering I don't know though.

Who said that?

Is that German black pudding?

For all her qualities, when a black pud is required a blue pud doesn't really cut it

it may come as a surprise to those who think the Dark Side is populated by yahoos and loud-mouthed louts, the discussion about Steve Haywood has run its course over there - the contributors have shown far more maturity than the drivel being perpetuated over here. ..................... Enough Already !!

unless you have a name and reputation to be proud of - like S. Haywood.

That's a bit mean. He might not have realised that this had already been posted. I think there's a few who have this condition on this forum.

The motorhome makes up for the lack of uniform!

Dave, normally you are pretty sensible and with judgement I would respect. In this case you are barking! The cruiser was effectively stationary on the mooring, with the crew member on the bank, many, many seconds before Steve arrived (I haven’t bother to re-run it but surely at least 10 seconds. He didn’t have to stop, he just had to avoid pointing his boat at the bow of the cruiser. He didn’t try, hence it was obviously deliberate.

Dave, what about the fact that Haywood cut across the bows of a boat in his haste to get to the mooring right at the beginning of the video? That contravened the coltegs and you seem to be ignoring that. I can't help thinking that you're defending the indefensible simply because you know the guy.

Sorry Dave, I agree with you on most things but here you're talking absolute bollox.

wot a load of nonsense.I've watched it with open eyes, never mind an open mind, and have absolutely no doubt that Haywood knew the hire boat would occupy the space long before he would be in a position to moor. Furthermore the hire boat was clearly moving so as to moor up there, while Haywood was several boat lengths away, and his own course was not necessarily related to mooring at that location, if anywhere.If he really believed there was space for 2 boats then his reaction was quite out of place. such a 'decent bloke' would have drawn alongside the hire boat and politely suggested he move up a bit. He clearly drove directly at the hire boat without any intention of trying to get into a non-existent space, it was pure aggression and revenge.how you can compare the video with "a hire boat suddenly went for the same gap" beats me. There was nothing sudden about the hire boat's movements. ....... and why do you refer to a 'hire boat' as if they are a different, ignorant, subordinate breed?

Hi Steve!

and ferry glide into a tight mooring space.

Unfortunately that is what boaters have to put up with when (some) canal boaters get on rivers. It was intentional - even if he 'couldn't stop' because he was 20 tonnes and had a trad engine, he could have turned away instead of turning towards the boat. When approaching a mooring you turn to approach from the down stream side to have better slow-speed control - approaching from upstream in (say) a 2mph flow, and maintaining (say) 2 mph to retain steering means you are approaching the mooring at 4mph, doing it 'correctly' means you can approach at virtually zero speed and still maintain steering. He was in the wrong - no question.

I always thought he put on an "outraged" act for his magazine column. Clearly I was wrong, he genuinely is a nasty piece of work.