Nick Best Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Despite Tingdene stating that they do not allow live aboard moorings at Pyrford Marina , they do . There are already a number of people in permanent residence on boats in the Marina . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nick Best said: Despite Tingdene stating that they do not allow live aboard moorings at Pyrford Marina , they do . There are already a number of people in permanent residence on boats in the Marina . I think you'll find no-one lives on a boat in there (except perhaps the harbourmaster). Some may however, appear to spend 'a lot of time' on their boats... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikexx Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, Nick Best said: Despite Tingdene stating that they do not allow live aboard moorings at Pyrford Marina , they do . There are already a number of people in permanent residence on boats in the Marina . That may be a rule due to planning and other considerations. Rules are made to be broken though the Marina might face action if too many people claim they live-aboard 24x7x52. Some holiday parks close for 3 weeks in the Winter to prove they're not residential, perhaps a prudent time to book a holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, Nick Best said: Despite Tingdene stating that they do not allow live aboard moorings at Pyrford Marina , they do . There are already a number of people in permanent residence on boats in the Marina . Welcome to the forum - interesting 1st post, is there a touch of 'sour grapes' in there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Welcome to the forum - interesting 1st post, is there a touch of 'sour grapes' in there ? Maybe he's like so many others, bought a boat to live on then realised it's not as easy as he thinks when it comes to finding a residential mooring and does not like being told he can't have a mooring in his desired Marina, so "Living the Dream" may be a little harder then he thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Welcome to the forum - interesting 1st post, is there a touch of 'sour grapes' in there ? I was wondering this too. Chucked out of the marina for living aboard perhaps? The River Wey is National Trust and they don't allow living aboard. I'm not sure quite how they enforce this, especially if a boater being lined up for enforcement claims to live elsewhere (e.g. on another boat on say, CRT waters!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Nick Best said: Despite Tingdene stating that they do not allow live aboard moorings at Pyrford Marina , they do . There are already a number of people in permanent residence on boats in the Marina . Thankyou for enlightening us all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 A while back a distant relation applied there for a mooring he had to produce up to date evidence of a land based dwelling & up to date uility bills in his name & IIRC not allowed to spend more than 5 nights per week aboard, again IIRC he gave up & found a mooring on the GU Was a few years back so may be different now but then it was certainly no live aboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just now, X Alan W said: A while back a distant relation applied there for a mooring he had to produce up to date evidence of a land based dwelling & up to date uility bills in his name & IIRC not allowed to spend more than 5 nights per week aboard, again IIRC he gave up & found a mooring on the GU Was a few years back so may be different now but then it was certainly no live aboards I'd suggest this policy is nothing to do with Ting Dene and everything to do with their NAA with the National Trust. Ting Dene don't give a monkey's s if you live aboard in their (far bigger) marina at Caversham so why should they at Pyrford? I suspect external pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I'd suggest this policy is nothing to do with Ting Dene and everything to do with their NAA with the National Trust. Ting Dene don't give a monkey's s if you live aboard in their (far bigger) marina at Caversham so why should they at Pyrford? I suspect external pressure. And I might suggest various peeps crying loudly how unfair it all is will eventually mean there will come a time when there really arn't any liveaboards quietly getting on with their lives 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesFrance Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 having just bought a boat there we are there now for 2 weeks. I have not noticed any resident boat owners apart from Tingdene staff maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on the Wey Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Certain Tingdene staff do indeed live at Pyrford Marina. And a few boaters do reside on NT Wey moorings, but they are assistant weirkeepers, mooring wardens and (at one time, not sure currently) a lengthsman. I am not subject to any rules about how long I can stay on my boat at Pyrford Marina. The only rule is that it cannot be my residence. As MtB said, Thames & Kennet Marina is something else. LOTS of smoking chimneys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Mike on the Wey said: I am not subject to any rules aout how long I can stay on my boat at Pyrford Marina. The only rule is that it cannot be my residence. I'm reasonably sure there is at least another rule saying you must have a River Wey licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on the Wey Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I'm reasonably sure there is at least another rule saying you must have a River Wey licence. Bizarrely, no. There are some boats in the marina without an annual Wey licence. Some never move, and others buy short term licences for their trips out. I was very surprised to learn that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 59 minutes ago, Mike on the Wey said: Bizarrely, no. There are some boats in the marina without an annual Wey licence. Some never move, and others buy short term licences for their trips out. I was very surprised to learn that. Not sure of the situation at the moment by 5 years ago the Broads Authority where trying to introduce the requirement to have a licence on adjoining waters as if you were moored down what was considered an unnavagatable or private dyke you didnt need one until you went onto the broads navigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) There are staff who are fully entitled to live there (and good thing too - mutual security and caretaking of boats). One of them is a forum member and very nice tall man! You do get the occaisional person who works, say locally < but lives in a home far away> whom stay aboard regularly for a few nights say <whilst working> and going back home weekly (so not living there). You deffo don't need a Wey Licence there whilst inside. The new marina at Send is coming along. Prob same rules? Edited October 9, 2017 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 There are many moorings both on the canal and offline which don't allow you to liveaboard, that's where discretion comes in-a quality you appear to be short of. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Best Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Discretion? Does that mean do as you like and two fingers up to the rules ? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Nick Best said: Discretion? Does that mean do as you like and two fingers up to the rules ? Why not? Apart from your blood pressure, is this causing you any issues, does it negatively effect your life in some way? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Best Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 No more than any person or supposedly responsible company / organisation turning a blind eye in the interest of making money. We must never forget that profit is far more important than rules or honesty. Tingdene are a prime example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nick Best said: No more than any person or supposedly responsible company / organisation turning a blind eye in the interest of making money. We must never forget that profit is far more important than rules or honesty. Tingdene are a prime example of that. Yeah your right, google, starbucks, tringdean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, tree monkey said: Yeah your right, google, starbucks, tringdean. You Omitted Fagin(and Scrooge) Edited October 9, 2017 by cereal tiller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, Nick Best said: Discretion? Does that mean do as you like and two fingers up to the rules ? Why not? No, it's just a fact of living in something of a grey area with a seriously limited supply of official residential moorings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 09/10/2017 at 21:14, Nick Best said: No more than any person or supposedly responsible company / organisation turning a blind eye in the interest of making money. We must never forget that profit is far more important than rules or honesty. Tingdene are a prime example of that. What age did you reach before figuring this out? I think I got there aged about 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: What age did you reach before figuring this out? I think I got there aged about 11. Rules and honesty are two completely different things. There are many, many businesses that do not put profit before honesty, but rules can be broken or bent without compromising one's honesty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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