cuthound Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Anybody know what the proscribed penalty for non-display is? I know that breaking the bylaws is a criminal offence. Bod When the canals were first opened, transportation was the standard penalty for many offences ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Anybody know what the proscribed penalty for non-display is? I know that breaking the bylaws is a criminal offence. Bod Without digging out the acts I believe that over the years the penalty has risen to £100. The thing to remember is that apparently every new day becomes a new offence so the amount can soon 'rack-up' at the rate of £100 per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcol Posted August 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Where are we then please, still not sure Is it a offence to not to display your license? Col Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Yes it's still an offence. CRT are saying they don't plan to make a fuss about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcol Posted August 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bod Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) With the capers being cut, mentioned in other threads, I wouldn't bank on, a total non-action policy being adhered to. For the sake of a bit of paper being displayed. Bod Edited August 22, 2016 by Bod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 For various reasons, the amount of time that we will be able to spend cruising on CRT waters next year is looking to be a bit limited, so I've just bought a 30-day "Explorer" licence as I reckon that it will be just about right. I was a bit surprised to find that CRT do not issue an actual licence in any form. The only proof that you have a licence is the e-mail that they send to acknowledge receipt of your payment. There's nothing that you can display. Helpfully, they do send a PDF sheet that you can print out, with the boat's name and 30 squares to record your usage, but it's not compulsory to fill it out, and it's not a licence. It's going to be fun this Bank Holiday as we are off to the Costa del Glosta and Sharpness with no visible licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCat Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I was very interested to note when I was sent my licence that it was in MS Word. It would have taken me roughly 3 seconds to doctor it to represent the boat name and date of my choice Not that I would being a law abiding citizen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Don't have printer don't have uk address by the time I get home to pick up this years licence and back its next year!!!! Index painted on bow never had any comments. Do have copy on phone which I display if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Don't have printer don't have uk address by the time I get home to pick up this years licence and back its next year!!!! Index painted on bow never had any comments. Do have copy on phone which I display if required. Do you have a bank account or driving licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twbm Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Do CRT license goats now? Yes. I blame the nanny state. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billS Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Yes. I blame the nanny state. You're kidding. Edited August 24, 2016 by billS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Excellent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Well some on here are fond of criticising CRT for making up laws for themselves so yes, I'd say this is quite possible. The interesting thing is CRT's new made up 'law' that licence discs no longer need be displayed seems to have been easily accepted without objection by lots of boaters... You only accept the bits you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Where are we then please, still not sure Is it a offence to not to display your license? Col As CRT (in exchange for some money) have recently given me permission in writing to take my boat onto their waters and have categorically stated that they will not issue me with a licence in any form that can be displayed, it seems clear that it is not an offence not to display your licence. In the opinion of CRT, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 As CRT (in exchange for some money) have recently given me permission in writing to take my boat onto their waters and have categorically stated that they will not issue me with a licence in any form that can be displayed, it seems clear that it is not an offence not to display your licence. In the opinion of CRT, that is. But still is in law or so it appears. As somebody said much earlier it is an offence but CRT aren't going to make a fuss about it (or words to that effect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Favouritism! They have told me that I must have both the "disks" and a larger "index number" plate displayed. The fact that the index number is on the licence "disks" isn't good enough for them. On the other hand, when you do order up a set of index plates they take many months to deliver them, so perhaps they don't think they are that important? Did you ask Alan, or did they just come along and insist? In the 19 years that we have had Helvetia. we have never displayed official index number plates, Instead we have had the number painted above the back panel, No one has ever challenged it. Edited August 25, 2016 by David Schweizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 But still is in law or so it appears. As somebody said much earlier it is an offence but CRT aren't going to make a fuss about it (or words to that effect). Unless your name is Alan Fincher, It seems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Don't the regs just say the number has to be displayed readable from a set distance with no reference to how it is displayed? At least that is what I have always thought they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Don't the regs just say the number has to be displayed readable from a set distance with no reference to how it is displayed? At least that is what I have always thought they said. See post number 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Don't the regs just say the number has to be displayed readable from a set distance with no reference to how it is displayed? At least that is what I have always thought they said. I don't think that there is an "official plate" in the same way as car numberplates are specified. The metal plates are for poor people who can't afford fancy signwriting. (Good job I read that before posting. My spell checker changed "fancy" to "fanny", which conjured up all sorts of strange images in my head) Edited August 25, 2016 by PaulG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billS Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (Good job I read that before posting. My spell checker changed "fancy" to "fanny", which conjured up all sorts of strange images in my head) It also depends whether that's from an American or British perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 See post number 17 I had seen post 17 however knowing how some members of the forum dissect legalese it doesn't (to my reading at least) make it clear how the number needs displayed e.g. sign written or plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 It also depends whether that's from an American or British perspective. If you don't mind, I'm not going to expand any further on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Two nations separated by a common language...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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