Towpath Teams what do boaters think?

[Ajna]

CRT in their wisdom seem to be encouraging local people to adopt their local canal path.

Having recently been out and about just past Portland Basin I did a left turn the towpath is lovely and provides wonderful biking and walking facilities including wait for it duh duh duhhh led solar powered lights neatly set into the tow path so those lovely cyclist and dog walkers doo doo tippers don't fall into the canal ,how all very lovely and civalised!!!!

Without resorting to very choice language where am I supposed to put my pins in as the morons have concreted right to the edge of the bank stone so if a boater breaks down or needs to moor they can't!!!

Forgive me if I'm talking nonsense but are canals not in existence for the purpose of canal boats too or have we been forgotten?

[Ray T]

Oh whoopee do, another CRT bashing thread.

[Midnight]

Oh whoopee do, another CRT bashing thread.

 

Well there does seem to be a disregard for boaters needs at times or a lack of common sense. I don't think we should congratulate CRT for this kind of irrational upgrade but had rings been set into the concrete maybe we would. If boats tied up to those lovely solar lights I think we boaters would take a bashing from some quarters. And of course it's only by highlighting such issues will those in charge realise the flaws in the plan.

[dogless]

And of course there's nowhere else one can moor, it's not like there is around 2,000 miles of waterways to pick from.....

Rog

[Idunhoe]

When the towpath was guote Improved unquote on the Caldon recently there were sections where the hard surface extended up to the stone coping stones. A lot of unhappy boaters, that was until CRT put in mooring rings. Sorted

[tidal]

Has anyone contacted CRT about this problem?

Sometimes the simplest option is ignored

[Idunhoe]

Has anyone contacted CRT about this problem?

Sometimes the simplest option is ignored

To be fair the mooring rings on the Caldon didn't happen until after discussions with the local waterways team.......it's good to talk.

[ditchcrawler]

To be fair the mooring rings on the Caldon didn't happen until after discussions with the local waterways team.......it's good to talk.

I look forward to using them

[Ray T]

 

Well there does seem to be a disregard for boaters needs at times or a lack of common sense. I don't think we should congratulate CRT for this kind of irrational upgrade but had rings been set into the concrete maybe we would. If boats tied up to those lovely solar lights I think we boaters would take a bashing from some quarters. And of course it's only by highlighting such issues will those in charge realise the flaws in the plan.

 

I certainly do not think CRT as business is perfect, no business is!!! It is hardly constructive however to get CRT to listen with comments like this "Without resorting to very choice language where am I supposed to put my pins in as the morons have concreted right to the edge." along with remarks such as "including wait for it duh duh duhhh"

 

If I were running a business and a customer came in with a genuine complaint and called me a "moron" I would not be overly sympathetic to that complaint. Why should CRT staff be any different?

 

​Surely constructive criticism is the preferable way forward along with sensible suggestions for improvement?

 

Moron:

1. NOUN

   1. a person who is slow at learning; a stupid person.
      synonyms: fool · idiot · stupid person · simpleton · halfwit · ignoramus · oaf
   2. "we can't let these thoughtless morons get away with mindless vandalism every weekend"

   ORIGIN

   early 20th cent. (as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 8–12): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros ‘foolish’.
   RELATED FORMS

   moron (noun) morons (plural noun)
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Edited September 30, 2015 by Ray T

[alan_fincher]

This is surely a fairly unusual "adoption", if it goes as far as the "adopters" actually laying large amounts of concrete.

 

Most adoptions more typically seem to involve tidying, painting, gardening and general sprucing up, (which I guess most of us would applaud).

 

Just how much concrete has been laid in this initiative, an has this really all been done by people just supporting the adoption? Sounds highly unusual to me.

[Midnight]

 

 

I certainly do not think CRT as business is perfect, no business is!!! It is hardly constructive however to get CRT to listen with comments like this "Without resorting to very choice language where am I supposed to put my pins in as the morons have concreted right to the edge." along with remarks such as "including wait for it duh duh duhhh"

 

If I were running a business and a customer came in with a genuine complaint and called me a "moron" I would not be overly sympathetic to that complaint. Why should CRT staff be any different?

 

​Surely constructive criticism is the preferable way forward along with sensible suggestions for improvement?

 

Moron:

1. NOUN

   1. a person who is slow at learning; a stupid person.
      synonyms: fool · idiot · stupid person · simpleton · halfwit · ignoramus · oaf
   2. "we can't let these thoughtless morons get away with mindless vandalism every weekend"

   ORIGIN

   early 20th cent. (as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 8–12): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros ‘foolish’.
   RELATED FORMS

   moron (noun) morons (plural noun)
   Powered by Oxford Dictionaries · © Oxford University Press

 

 

You make a very good point but why do you think I need the English lesson or was that intended for the OP

[Ray T]

 

You make a very good point but why do you think I need the English lesson or was that intended for the OP

 

The OP.

Edited September 30, 2015 by Ray T

[cuthound]

So in addition to mooring pins and goat chains, we now need to carry a hammer drill, rawl bolts and screw-in eyes?

[MtB]

So in addition to mooring pins and goat chains, we now need to carry a hammer drill, rawl bolts and screw-in eyes?

 

 

I suspect this is going to get quite common in the future...

[Paul C]

This is surely a fairly unusual "adoption", if it goes as far as the "adopters" actually laying large amounts of concrete.

 

Most adoptions more typically seem to involve tidying, painting, gardening and general sprucing up, (which I guess most of us would applaud).

 

Just how much concrete has been laid in this initiative, an has this really all been done by people just supporting the adoption? Sounds highly unusual to me.

 

Sounds like complete Balaerics to me, I doubt the local adoption re-surfaced it in concrete. OP is muddled.

[GUMPY]

Hilti gun is far better.

One shot and 8mm threaded bolt inserted into stone or concrete, onto that screw a ring and you have your mooring point. When finished remove ring and leave threaded bolt for next boat

[MtB]

Hilti gun is far better.

One shot and 8mm threaded bolt inserted into stone or concrete, onto that screw a ring and you have your mooring point. When finished remove ring and leave threaded bolt for next boat

 

 

Can you get cheap and cheerful cordless Hilti guns now then? (Like you can SDS drills.)

Edited September 30, 2015 by Mike the Boilerman

[lee 78]

i admit this is my first narrow boat, and i intend to cause no offence to anyone at all, but i have chose this lifestyle of continuous cruising because, not only the sense of freedom but my interest in the waterways and the history behind them, however, after reading the forum for a bit it seems everyone just slags the crt off, i think maybe they should try and focus on some positives, you all must have short memmories because i have spent most of my childhood in the 1980s birdwatching and fishing on the towpaths and i can clearly remember the shithole they used to be, now i dont pretend to know the ins and outs of whos done the good work, but, someone has cleaned them up for the better i can assure you, lets try to focus on some good points!

[churchward]

 

 

I certainly do not think CRT as business is perfect, no business is!!! It is hardly constructive however to get CRT to listen with comments like this "Without resorting to very choice language where am I supposed to put my pins in as the morons have concreted right to the edge." along with remarks such as "including wait for it duh duh duhhh"

 

If I were running a business and a customer came in with a genuine complaint and called me a "moron" I would not be overly sympathetic to that complaint. Why should CRT staff be any different?

 

​Surely constructive criticism is the preferable way forward along with sensible suggestions for improvement?

 

Moron:

1. NOUN

   1. a person who is slow at learning; a stupid person.
      synonyms: fool · idiot · stupid person · simpleton · halfwit · ignoramus · oaf
   2. "we can't let these thoughtless morons get away with mindless vandalism every weekend"

   ORIGIN

   early 20th cent. (as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 8–12): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros ‘foolish’.
   RELATED FORMS

   moron (noun) morons (plural noun)
   Powered by Oxford Dictionaries · © Oxford University Press

 

In Welsh a Moron is a Carrot.

[MtB]

i admit this is my first narrow boat, and i intend to cause no offence to anyone at all, but i have chose this lifestyle of continuous cruising because, not only the sense of freedom but my interest in the waterways and the history behind them, however, after reading the forum for a bit it seems everyone just slags the crt off, i think maybe they should try and focus on some positives, you all must have short memmories because i have spent most of my childhood in the 1980s birdwatching and fishing on the towpaths and i can clearly remember the shithole they used to be, now i dont pretend to know the ins and outs of whos done the good work, but, someone has cleaned them up for the better i can assure you, lets try to focus on some good points!

 

 

Dare I say you can;t have read much on here then?

 

There is a rump of about ten posters who slag off CRT at every opportunity. All the rest of us tend to argue with the slaggers-off, saying they are talking bollux.

 

Surely you've also seen the posts which generally follow, challenging the slaggers-off?

[kris88]

 

 

Dare I say you can;t have read much on here then?

 

There is a rump of about ten posters who slag off CRT at every opportunity. All the rest of us tend to argue with the slaggers-off, saying they are talking bollux.

 

Surely you've also seen the posts which generally follow, challenging the slaggers-off?

Alternatively there are a some ostriches on this forum, who refuse to lift there heads out of the sand. While some people try to point out the reality of the situation to them.

All with out swearing by the way

 

Regards kris

[Dyertribe]

If you call someone a moron in Welsh you're calling them a carrot!

[MtB]

Alternatively there are a some ostriches on this forum, who refuse to lift there heads out of the sand. While some people try to point out the reality of the situation to them.

All with out swearing by the way

 

Regards kris

 

 

Well as it happens, 'bollocks' is not swearing, or an obscenity. I refer you to the Sex Pistols case

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Mind_the_Bollocks,_Here's_the_Sex_Pistols

 

 

Mortimer produced expert witnesses who were able to successfully demonstrate that the word "bollocks" was not obscene, and was actually a legitimate Old English term originally used to refer to a priest,^[25] and which, in the context of the title, meant "nonsense". The chairman of the hearing was forced to conclude:

"Much as my colleagues and I wholeheartedly deplore the vulgar exploitation of the worst instincts of human nature for the purchases of commercial profits by both you and your company, we must reluctantly find you not guilty of each of the four charges.^{[26] "}

[kris88]

Very interesting mike thank you the info.

[churchward]

Personally I am all for local groups adopting lengths of canal. On the whole it is going to be to the benefit of all and a great practical way for a community to get involved and take pride in their local resource.

 

One of the saddest things I see out and about is a garden fence that backs onto a canal and they use it to dump their rubbish over. I think the more a community takes and interest the less likely such a thing is going to happen.

 

I have no experience of this specific example but as others have expressed I would be surprised if this adoption included the installation of large amounts of cement but I guess yu never know.