umpire111 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 am considering putting a seat on the stern of my trad boat. Can someone please advise where I can buy the stand and seat although quite happy to provide the actual seat myself. Also does it have to welded or can it be bolted on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Have you thought about the safety implications of having a seat where you can be wiped out by the tiller...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 You should not be standing or sitting in the area of the swing of your tiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 i hope this seat isn't for sitting on whilst driving. can you actually drive from the position you propose to put the seat? have you tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilaryb Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 But people have them fitted on semi trads and cruiser sterns??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 But people have them fitted on semi trads and cruiser sterns???And they can be equally as dangerous. I saw Somebody a few weeks back struggling to put their tiller hard over as they were sat in the way, they ended up leaning as far back as they could with the tiller across themselves. If something had been pushed in to their rudder at this moment there would be a high risk of them getting knocked off the stern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 But people have them fitted on semi trads and cruiser sterns??? People do lots of things but it doesn't always make it a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 The boat needs equipping with my patent invention the ''Super collapsible tiller andle'' . If it biffs into you it will simply collapse, just like Tommy Coopers magic wand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 ........................ there would be a high risk of them getting knocked off the stern. ...... within inches of a spinning prop. Astonishing what dopey things some people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 The bloke who died in the Harecastle tunnel recently is thought to have been sitting on his seat on a stick. General opinion is his head hit the roof where the tunnel roof lowers, and he was swept off the boat backwards into the water, and the boat carried on without him. What a horrendous thing for his wife to discover. Are you SURE you want a seat on a stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umpire111 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 most interesting, but does anyone know ehere I can buy one from- am aware of the pros and cons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 olde worlde tractor seat welded to a piece of scaffold tube - but NOT recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I would have thought that the steerer wouldn't be able to see over the cabin sat on a comfortable height seat ,my view is the less clutter on the counter the better, those rails /seat affairs on trad sterns are in my view a possible disaster waiting to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 most interesting, but does anyone know ehere I can buy one from- am aware of the pros and cons. All the ones I've seen I think have been home made. Old tractor seats are popular, and are also attractive to the light fingered brigade. Merely bolting them to the counter may suffice but is likely to eventually result in separation due to fatigue through flexing and movement. If you are intent on this I suggest you try juggling chainsaws first to get a feel for things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cariad Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wouldn't do without my taff rails, it suits me and have cruised extensively, hit my head in Harecastle tunnel and still here. Rarely i sit on them when steering but use them when in the lock or landing area and for attaching my anchor for quick release, hanging my washing hurly gurly thing. There are loads of boats fitted with these seats and lots of hire boats have seats on their cruiser sterns. We are entitled to our opinions and i think there is 50/50 split on this just like the cassette or pump out discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) I think Captain Fizz of this parish designed this: The working boat people managed without them. Edited July 23, 2015 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Gettin a sense of the old "vue ja de" here, Rodney: http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=75214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 am considering putting a seat on the stern of my trad boat. Can someone please advise where I can buy the stand and seat (1)although quite happy to provide the actual seat myself. Also does it have to welded or can it be bolted on(2) (1) Not possible they are made to order by the person fitting the pole. The seat possibly, the 'tractor' seat seems the most used. (2) welding would be better and easier, with possibly a 'spreading plate' on the counter. Warning you may not like this bit and do not have to read it. I now come to my opinion and also that of someone else that has them fitted. They are ugly and dangerous, the person that has them is having them removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (1) Not possible they are made to order by the person fitting the pole. The seat possibly, the 'tractor' seat seems the most used. (2) welding would be better and easier, with possibly a 'spreading plate' on the counter. Warning you may not like this bit and do not have to read it. I now come to my opinion and also that of someone else that has them fitted. They are ugly and dangerous, the person that has them is having them removed. This was the poor guy that died in Harecastle Tunnel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I find it deeply disturbing to see that photo of the dead man, doing what (probably) lead to his demise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigste Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Here youare exactly what is in the picture above. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Iron-tractor-barstool-seat-bar-stool-chair-cast-iron-vintage-kitchen-dining-/371241348634?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item566fb56e1a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Amazingly low price of £57.75! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf27 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Make a seat out of foam & leatherette, shaped to fit the space between the handrail & cabin slide, removeable & comfort. Other than that a step by the doors to heave yourself up ! Much safer. Edited July 23, 2015 by Alf27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boat&Bikes Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Company trading as K M Joinery manufactures Captain perches seats. I had a pair on my last boat, cruiser stern and they were in front of the tiller sweep...OP can google if he wishes, good quality product. I would not sit on one fitted to a trad but its a free country. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I find it deeply disturbing to see that photo of the dead man, doing what (probably) lead to his demise. Hopefully those that may be considering similar installations on their own boats will feel the same. Just looks like an "accident waiting to happen", made worse by the probability that it did, and fatally so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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