Kegworth Deep Lock sinking

[dave moore]

Browsing Facebook earlier, I was dismayed to learn of the sinking of Titan, a tug style boat by CTS that I’ve had much to do with over the years. Apparently it looks like a classic cill job, stern on the cill and bows under. Has anybody heard about this or have more information? Please share.

Dave

[Mike Todd]

There is now a stoppage notice to this effect

[Kendorr]

Pic off FB, post says it's now been re-floated with not too much damage, other than from the water

[dave moore]

Thank you both, I’m glad to hear that she’s afloat again and without too much damage. I can’t find the Facebook page, is there a link? It’s the first time that one of 

“ my” boats has suffered so. Bit of a shock!!

[merline]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/805025176339240/permalink/2574347246073682/

[ditchcrawler]

1 hour ago, dave moore said:

Thank you both, I’m glad to hear that she’s afloat again and without too much damage. I can’t find the Facebook page, is there a link? It’s the first time that one of 

“ my” boats has suffered so. Bit of a shock!!

Narrowboat Owners Group | Cill hang up Kegworth Deep Lock 9/06/23 | Facebook

[dave moore]

Thanks, Brian. That was the original post I saw earlier.

[ditchcrawler]

Just seen this 

Saturday 2.20 pm boat still here , rumour is won’t be sorted till Monday . So moored up and chilling in the sun

[MtB]

21 minutes ago, dave moore said:

Thanks, Brian. That was the original post I saw earlier.

 

 

That's curious. I get when I click the link:

 

 

"Private

Only members can see who's in the group and what they post."

[Kendorr]

 

54 minutes ago, MtB said:

That's curious. I get when I click the link:

 

Try this

 

https://www.facebook.com/mike.ford.1422409/posts/pfbid02UZTNFai5DkepM89MV5dZougjLdvfHEdzz6C8R1F47B5cgGn9ujLmPq7o7YeG3NjLl

[MtB]

2 minutes ago, Kendorr said:

 

 

Try this

 

https://www.facebook.com/mike.ford.1422409/posts/pfbid02UZTNFai5DkepM89MV5dZougjLdvfHEdzz6C8R1F47B5cgGn9ujLmPq7o7YeG3NjLl

 

Thanks, perfect!

 

"Thompson and Co Hinksford Traditional Engine Specialists" according to (presumably) Dave's lettering on the side.

 

Just had a google for them and nothing turns up. Curious as being interested in traditional engines, I've never heard of them.

 

 

Is it the Thompsons who renovate diesel injectors perhaps?

 

 

[dave moore]

I can shed  light on this. Titan was commissioned by Dr Ian Thompson, a local canal enthusiast since the 60s. It was his 3rd boat, Malcom Braine built his first, Temeraire, then in the 90s Norton Canes built a motorised butty, Tenacious, we called it the “ mutty “ at NC. Titan was built by next door builders, CTS, the intention being to base the boat in Ireland, sadly health issues put paid to that plan and the boat stayed in the Midlands. Ian lived at Hinksford on the S&W and was heavily involved with the RN diesel engine company, hence the Trad Engine Specialists on the cabin sides. My work was on all 3 boats. Ian was a fine fellow and I mourn his passing some years ago. Family wheeled him out to the wharf shortly before his death to listen to the engines he loved so much. All 3 boats were sold later. Poor Titan.

[MtB]

2 hours ago, dave moore said:

I can shed  light on this. Titan was commissioned by Dr Ian Thompson, a local canal enthusiast since the 60s. It was his 3rd boat, Malcom Braine built his first, Temeraire, then in the 90s Norton Canes built a motorised butty, Tenacious, we called it the “ mutty “ at NC. Titan was built by next door builders, CTS, the intention being to base the boat in Ireland, sadly health issues put paid to that plan and the boat stayed in the Midlands. Ian lived at Hinksford on the S&W and was heavily involved with the RN diesel engine company, hence the Trad Engine Specialists on the cabin sides. My work was on all 3 boats. Ian was a fine fellow and I mourn his passing some years ago. Family wheeled him out to the wharf shortly before his death to listen to the engines he loved so much. All 3 boats were sold later. Poor Titan.

 

 

Thanks Dave.

 

Looking on the bright side the majority of the interior looks to have escaped a dunking. Probably just some soft furnishings and some light woodwork damage which may well dry out with little ill effect.

 

All adds to the history of the boat. 

 

I have a feeling I may have met him once on the Rusty Newbery stand at Crick, perhaps 20-25 years ago. 

 

 

[Paul C]

Traditional Engine Specialists............not so traditional lock technique.

[MrsM]

Out of interest if a boat partially sinks like this one has, when it is floated does the water in the bow not drain back as the bow is raised? I would imagine this means that all of the bilge gets a thorough soaking regardless of how much of the boat was under water during the incident itself. Really hope this boat gets sorted quickly and no lasting damage is done. Must be extremely traumatic for the poor owners.

[Richard T]

17 minutes ago, Paul C said:

Traditional Engine Specialists............not so traditional lock technique.

Not a helpful comment - if you don't know the circumstances of the sinking. That lock is notorious for cill hang ups going both up and down stream.

[Mrs Bearwood Boster]

24 minutes ago, Paul C said:

Traditional Engine Specialists............not so traditional lock technique.

Totally different owners now who must be devastated. The original owners are no longer with us .Comments such as your comment are just plain rude & thoughtless.

Edited June 10, 2023 by Mrs Bearwood Boster

[wandering snail]

The couple who own the boat have said that the wife couldn't manage the paddles/gates so husband left the boat to help. Somehow it went in to reverse gear.....All off and safe.

Edited June 10, 2023 by wandering snail

[Theo]

Can't see why that particular lock should be worse than others with a long cill.  There will be the usual white cill marker won't there?

 

Nick

[Mrs Bearwood Boster]

1 minute ago, wandering snail said:

The couple who own the boat have said that the wife couldn't manage the paddles/gates so husband left the boat to help. Somehow it went in to reverse gear.....All off and safe.

Including their dog !

[MrsM]

2 minutes ago, wandering snail said:

The couple who own the boat have said that the wife couldn't manage the paddles/gates so husband left the boat to help. Somehow it went in to reverse gear.....All off and safe.

Can completely sympathise with that - was just commenting to other half that the paddles and gates there are really heavy as I recall. Glad to hear it is safely recovered.

[Rob-M]

6 minutes ago, wandering snail said:

The couple who own the boat have said that the wife couldn't manage the paddles/gates so husband left the boat to help. Somehow it went in to reverse gear.....All off and safe.

That's why I always take the centre line with me if going to assist and put a couple of turns round the gate beam or a bollard.

[Barneyp]

1 hour ago, MrsM said:

Out of interest if a boat partially sinks like this one has, when it is floated does the water in the bow not drain back as the bow is raised? I would imagine this means that all of the bilge gets a thorough soaking regardless of how much of the boat was under water during the incident itself. Really hope this boat gets sorted quickly and no lasting damage is done. Must be extremely traumatic for the poor owners.

Yes, when the boat is refloated any  water left in the boat will wet the entire length of the boat.

Refloating is often not as simple as just refilling the lock, depending on the exact situation this can lead to more water going into the boat, so it maybe that some or all of the water is pumped out before or during the refloating.

[dmr]

2 hours ago, Paul C said:

Traditional Engine Specialists............not so traditional lock technique.

Accidents happen, no matter how good or experienced you are the locks and circumstances just sometimes throw something unexpected at you. We had a potential sinking in a lock last week, another boater helping us spotted it and our emerency plans mostly worked, just a few litres of water into the boat, we are good and experienced, but also we had a bit of luck. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Mrs Bearwood Boster said:

Comments such as your comment are just plain rude & thoughtless.

 

He does this a lot.

 

But then has the brass neck to complain about other posters content.

 

 

30 minutes ago, dmr said:

Accidents happen, no matter how good or experienced you are the locks and circumstances just sometimes throw something unexpected at you. We had a potential sinking in a lock last week, another boater helping us spotted it and our emerency plans mostly worked, just a few litres of water into the boat, we are good and experienced, but also we had a bit of luck. 

 

Agreed,  The trick is to notice very quickly when something is about to go very wrong and then know what to do to rectify it equally quickly.

 

A moments distraction and a boat can be sunk.