enigmatic Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Richard T said: Are you aware that there are three standard types of stern for a narrowboat? Traditional used in this context means a boat with a small rear deck and the steerer stands just inside the back doors.Semi - traditional retains the shape of a trad boat but has a larger area to stand in, cruiser is an open stern deck with room for the steerer and several other people. There are many subtle variations on these types And to add to this, the semi traditional and cruiser stern types often have seats. @H01ppy If I had a traditional boat, I'd want the seat inside the hatch for safety reasons (not being inside the tiller arc when steering so I don't get knocked off the back) I have something like this https://www.google.com/search?q=bucket+seat+tractor+vintage at the back of my semi-traditional narrowboat, but if it was a traditional boat I would also need to be able to fold it down to use the doorway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, enigmatic said: I have something like this https://www.google.com/search?q=bucket+seat+tractor+vintage at the back of my semi-traditional narrowboat, but if it was a traditional boat I would also need to be able to fold it down to use the doorway This one 16 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: It's been nice knowing you Brian ... So I went to FB and this was the first posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: This one more like this (a pair of them actually) but since it's a semi trad I could upgrade to your suggestion, or possibly a small sofa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, enigmatic said: since it's a semi trad I could upgrade to your suggestion, or possibly a small sofa You'll be having a garden bench before long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn Stampede Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Ray T said: Alice Collins and Bob Grantham. Pictures from CRT Archive. That's pretty much how I sit and steer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said: I always sit on the roof but on the port side to avoid trees. Standing too long is hard on my old legs. And semi-trad's can have a construction that permits much the same (as in ours and its predecessor) BTW, I suspect that some people here, concerned about accuracy, have over-interpreted the OP's use of traditional. I think that it was used more generally to distinguish from tupperware and the like rather be limited to narrowboats of a traditional hull shape and proportion with a specific stern arrangement. It may well be that those in a 'senior' position on this forum may well be right that the established designs cannot be bettered but our world would be a much impoverished place were it not for those without experience who come along and ask 'Have you ever tried doing it like this?' That is how great inventions come about, more often than not. Wish the OP well with the project - do come back and let us know how it is going. By all means try out ideas here to iron out unnecessary co0mplications - you might even get a matter grade! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 12 hours ago, dmr said: There are better ways of achieving the same result. Steering would seem to have been forgotten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: Steering would seem to have been forgotten? The rear hatch lifts as it would on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Not my idea but this appeared on CWDF some years ago. Edited January 9, 2021 by Ray T 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ray T said: Not my idea but this appeared on CWDF some years ago. That's alright if you are on a permanent right hand turn and have no legs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H01ppy Posted January 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 I understand that many people require clarification as to the type of canal boat i am looking at. I have mentioned a traditional canal boat, this is exactly what I mean- a traditional stern which is 'traditionally' found with a boatmans cabin. I also do know about the different types of canal boat as I have been on both a traditional and semi-trad. I chose to design some form of seating for a traditional stem as I am well aware of the lack of space and the safety implications that go along with it. I have chosen this because I already have existing knowledge on it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, H01ppy said: Aye, you can see how dangerous it is, knocked clean in, just leaving one shoe..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, matty40s said: Aye, you can see how dangerous it is, knocked clean in, just leaving one shoe..... Matty you may be joking but a while ago a gent sitting on a tractor seat on the stern of a trad boat was knocked overboard in Harecastle tunnel. Michael Holgate drowned after he banged his head on tunnel and fell into canal | Daily Mail Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ray T said: Matty you may be joking but a while ago a gent sitting on a tractor seat on the stern of a trad boat was knocked overboard in Harecastle tunnel. Michael Holgate drowned after he banged his head on tunnel and fell into canal | Daily Mail Online We usually post this picture in relation to that incident ... Edited January 9, 2021 by TheBiscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Heartland said: The survey probably means more thought as to the questions. There have been observations about the stern, but what needs to be clarified is what a "traditional canal boat" means. does an oil rig escape and survival vessel ("lifeboat") meet the requirements? Edited January 9, 2021 by Murflynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Murflynn said: does an oil rig escape and survival vessel ("lifeboat") meet the requirements? If they haven't been messed about with they usually have loads of seating ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, H01ppy said: I understand that many people require clarification as to the type of canal boat i am looking at. I have mentioned a traditional canal boat, this is exactly what I mean- a traditional stern which is 'traditionally' found with a boatmans cabin. I also do know about the different types of canal boat as I have been on both a traditional and semi-trad. I chose to design some form of seating for a traditional stem as I am well aware of the lack of space and the safety implications that go along with it. I have chosen this because I already have existing knowledge on it. As it is purely a theoretical piece simply to be judged on merit and marked according to a particular format, and (hopefully and examiner with an inadequate knowledge of the subject) means the fact you are designing a 'killing seat' will probably not affect your resultant grade. Good luck. Academic qualifications sinply prove that you can 'apply yourself' to a task, but ones that are rarely of any use in the real world. My best friend (and best man) did his degree in Geology, which somehow gave him the qualifications to be employed by the CEGB selling and disposing of ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: My best friend (and best man) did his degree in Geology, which somehow gave him the qualifications to be employed by the CEGB selling and disposing of ash. My son in law took his degree in history and handles mainframe computers for a major bank. How did his degree qualify him? In the words of the interviewer it proves he can apply himself and learn quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: As it is purely a theoretical piece simply to be judged on merit and marked according to a particular format, and (hopefully and examiner with an inadequate knowledge of the subject) means the fact you are designing a 'killing seat' will probably not affect your resultant grade. Good luck. Academic qualifications sinply prove that you can 'apply yourself' to a task, but ones that are rarely of any use in the real world. My best friend (and best man) did his degree in Geology, which somehow gave him the qualifications to be employed by the CEGB selling and disposing of ash. like learning Latin that was essential for Oxbridge entry. Actually I consider it was a good thing - it forces you to think clearly and logically. How the ornery folk in ancient Rome managed to communicate is a mystery. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jerra said: My son in law took his degree in history and handles mainframe computers for a major bank. How did his degree qualify him? In the words of the interviewer it proves he can apply himself and learn quickly. As a counterpoint, Boris has a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, TheBiscuits said: As a counterpoint, Boris has a degree. In what? However he does seem to have learned to pass the buck and avoid decisions fairly well so it does prove he learns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jerra said: My son in law took his degree in history and handles mainframe computers for a major bank. How did his degree qualify him? In the words of the interviewer it proves he can apply himself and learn quickly. Agreed, and pretty much what I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jerra said: In what? Classics, from Oxford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Athy said: Classics, from Oxford. He is certainly a classic something or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray T said: Matty you may be joking but a while ago a gent sitting on a tractor seat on the stern of a trad boat was knocked overboard in Harecastle tunnel. I've already stated that earlier in the thread and also in my feedback to the student.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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