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There is a breach on the Aire & Calder Navigation near the New Bridge in the West Cowick area.  Goole is now isolated by the emergency gates to safeguard the Docks.  I don't know what the situation is in the Rawcliffe Bridge or Pollington Lock areas.

Posted

Now that could be a serious amount of water!! the A and C is not a little ditch like much of the system there are some low lying properties in that location. 

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Just now, Alway Swilby said:

What is the level like in Goole? We are moored at Viking Marina but are 50 miles away and no car.

I would say we are down at least a foot at the moment.  We have had issues with boats drifting under jetties in the past and when the levels come back up they're fast.

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My sister has just told me its the aire at east cowick. She gets instant flood alerts as they happen as she can see the river from her house and she is next to the embankment.

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4 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

My sister has just told me its the aire at east cowick. She gets instant flood alerts as they happen as she can see the river from her house and she is next to the embankment.

I bow to your sisters knowledge

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https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/target-area/123FWB150

 

River Aire, Don and Dutch River at East Cowick and Lidgate


Flooding is expected - immediate action required

 

Following a significant breach of the left bank of the Aire and Calder Navigation near the River Don at New Bridge, flooding of properties and roads is expected. Areas most at risk are East Cowick. We understand that flood waters are already impacting the area and we expect some property flooding in areas closest to the drains. We are closely monitoring the situation. Our incident response staff are liaising with the Local Authorities and the Canals and Rivers Trust in order to manage the situation. Please plan driving routes to avoid low lying roads near rivers and the canal, which may be flooded and avoid using low lying footpaths near local watercourses. This message will be updated as the situation changes.

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3 minutes ago, Joe Bourke said:

I bow to your sisters knowledge

Lol, she could be wrong? as you know its more or less all connected up there. The aire is tidal past her house and at the last floods it was unreal the scene from her garden!! Many destroyed properties. Wether its canal or river section theres some serious water going to cause trouble.

Posted
36 minutes ago, Joe Bourke said:

Emergency gates outside Goole.

There is a HUGE body of water between there and the next barriers which will be the bottom gates of Pollington Lock(A&C) and the bottom gates of Sykehouse lock (NJC) by my reckoning.

 

I can't recall any way of sealing off before then.???

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There is the huge reservoir north of the junction with the New Junction Canal that is only separated by a few rocks that will add appreciably to the total volume.

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6 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:

There is a HUGE body of water between there and the next barriers which will be the bottom gates of Pollington Lock(A&C) and the bottom gates of Sykehouse lock (NJC) by my reckoning.

 

I can't recall any way of sealing off before then.???

 

That's the area covered by the stoppage notice.

 

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/18926-pollington-lock-and-goole-caisson

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2 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:

Only partly.

 

That stoppage doesn't include the top of the NJC which is open to the breach. Unless the Went Aquaduct can be closed off.

 

I can't recall if it can be.

Yes they can shut off the aqueduct.

Posted
1 minute ago, Joe Bourke said:

Yes they can shut off the aqueduct.

Cheers. I honestly couldn't remember. I know they could at the Don end, to stop the Don flooding the NJC but wasn't sure about the Went end.

Posted
1 hour ago, pearley said:

Cousin who lives at Rawcliffe Bridge says all ok there.

Good. That stretch can certainly be problematic for surrounding properties.

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When will Mr Parry & Co realise the cost of this kind of devastation is more than the cost of keeping in-house experienced bank staff who can spot potential problems before they become major and very expensive problems. 

 

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Posted (edited)
50 minutes ago, Midnight said:

When will Mr Parry & Co realise the cost of this kind of devastation is more than the cost of keeping in-house experienced bank staff who can spot potential problems before they become major and very expensive problems. 

 

I think he does realise,but is constrained by the bean counters.

When I worked in schools and public buildings the cleaning staff were on "spot cleaning".

This was simply looking into a room,and only cleaning it if it looked necessary.If it looked ok,then leave it and on to the next room.

CRT do similar,in that if something is broken,they fix it,but routine maintainance they rarely do.

I have seen a CRT bloke a couple of times on the Huddersfield Narrow and Broad greasing the paddle mechanism and clearing rubbish from the lock bywashes,but many of the lock gates leak badly resulting in low pounds.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Midnight said:

When will Mr Parry & Co realise the cost of this kind of devastation is more than the cost of keeping in-house experienced bank staff who can spot potential problems before they become major and very expensive problems. 

 

Having been involved with many very clear "spend now, save more later" options in the military, I can tell you that even the biggest "no brainers" recognised as saving a fortune in the future have to be rejected when the organisation has insufficient funds in the present.

 

Just think how many members here post about issues with their boats that would be so easily solved or avoided by adequately funding their boat purchase and upkeep in the first place. Hard to do if they simply don't have the spare cash.

 

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11 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

Just think how many members here post about issues with their boats that would be so easily solved or avoided by adequately funding their boat purchase and upkeep in the first place. Hard to do if they simply don't have the spare cash.

Very true.

 

Buy a £20k boat with engine problems, smelling mouldy, water streaks on the internal woodwork, and then find it has holes in the hull, is not really a 'saving' when for under £1k a surveyor could have told you it needed £x spending on it, or, save up, spend 2x the amount and get a 'sound' boat.

 

Problem is more and more people who have no savings & a low income are being told to 'get onto the housing ladder' - buy a boat, which can actually lead to them losing what little they have.

 

There is no simple answer, but, if you haven't got the money, then you just cannot do 'things' that you would like to do.

 

In the case of C&RT, they could do more by reallocating expenditure from expensive re-branding, new signage, staff uniforms, vehicles, etc etc and focus on the priorities of 'why they exist'.

 

Many years ago a work colleague (who had been made redundant several times) told me to 'watch out for the signs of company problems', these being typically :

The toilets are painted, new white lines painted in the car-park, broken windows are fixed, management get new cars, it's all just window dressing to hide the underlying problems.

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