Rob-M Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 And nerve in bridge holes? Richard I won't be making that gentlemanly mistake again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrigglefingers Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 A bit of fun, eh, boys? Not in any way competitive, no way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathleen bridget Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 There is a distinct possibility that Old Friends will be chugging along to take part next year,paint jobs permitting. Yessssssssssssssssss Old Friends on the BCN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Blimey - how many times did you run aground? Richard Three times (as has been aired extensively on here) once due to my own "operator error" and twice due to boaters who don't understand that if you fill a lock from a short pound for a second time (a boat waiting to go up ahead having already taken one lockfull out) not only does it not help your progress (you have to wait in the next pound anyway) but it drops the level of the pound significantly. Never mind, I know you and Alan haven't been boating for long, you'll get the hang of it eventually. They'll have to wind at CTS so I'll look at the front their boat when they come back past as well. I might raise an eyebrow and in extreme cases roll my eyes and tut.No they don't go as far as CTS, they wind at the coal basin (can't remember it's name) Edited November 7, 2014 by nicknorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 No they don't go as far as CTS, they wind at the coal basin (can't remember it's name) The Grove So, why didn't we run aground in those flights? And, what did you go to see when you were over the other sides of those (shallow) pounds? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 The stretch between Anchor Bridge and Burntwood Road bridge has a very narrow, not very deep channel, it's stupidly easy to get a boat stuck there. Although in my case it wasn't so much as stupidly easy, as stupid! The previous year we had stopped under the last bridge before the basin to remove the autumn weed from the basin (which seems unlike any other weed!) and the boat had drifted right into the side. So during the challenge I thought I would drop Jeff off to look for the clue, under that bridge knowing it was plenty deep enough at the side. WRONG! It is deep on the non-towpath side but not on the towpath side and, since I was doing a fair lick at the time, went proper aground! So, why didn't we run aground in those flights? And, what did you go to see when you were over the other sides of those (shallow) pounds? Richard Because you draw next to nothing, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Because you draw next to nothing, surely? Being used to the BCN, you learn the places to avoid going - and the pounds in lock flights are high on the list They were almost full of rubbish back in the 1980's Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Being used to the BCN, you learn the places to avoid going - and the pounds in lock flights are high on the list They were almost full of rubbish back in the 1980's Richard So presumably you carry your boat between locks? Anyway, they were even fuller in the 60s when I first went on the BCN (although we had a much shallower drafted boat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 So presumably you carry your boat between locks? Anyway, they were even fuller in the 60s when I first went on the BCN (although we had a much shallower drafted boat) Nick, you are welcome to enjoy your cruises to the far sides of short BCN pounds. I think you deserve anything you get over there, you don't need to blame other boaters for you going aground Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 So presumably you carry your boat between locks? Don't given them ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Nick, you are welcome to enjoy your cruises to the far sides of short BCN pounds. I think you deserve anything you get over there, you don't need to blame other boaters for you going aground Richard ?? An interesting viewpoint - I suppose you didn't expect me to move over to the right just enough to let you past? Anyway, knowing you as I do there is no way you are going to publicly admit that unnecessarily draining 2 lockfulls out of a short and shallow pound is a bad idea. But you'll probably think about it and get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Although in my case it wasn't so much as stupidly easy, as stupid! The previous year we had stopped under the last bridge before the basin to remove the autumn weed from the basin (which seems unlike any other weed!) and the boat had drifted right into the side. So during the challenge I thought I would drop Jeff off to look for the clue, under that bridge knowing it was plenty deep enough at the side. WRONG! It is deep on the non-towpath side but not on the towpath side and, since I was doing a fair lick at the time, went proper aground! The weed in the basin is weird, right enough, the time of year seems to make a big difference to how easy it is to throw off more than the quantity that's around the prop. The last bridge, that's the new one isn't it, the toll road bridge? I don't think I've ever stopped under there tbh. The stretch from there to the basin's nice and deep, you can get a lick on there. From there back to anchor bridge is about my least favourite stretch of cut round here, shallow, twisty and overhanging trees you can't really dodge without going aground. Next time I'm up there with some time on my hands I'm going to do some pruning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 The weed in the basin is weird, right enough, the time of year seems to make a big difference to how easy it is to throw off more than the quantity that's around the prop. The last bridge, that's the new one isn't it, the toll road bridge? I don't think I've ever stopped under there tbh. The stretch from there to the basin's nice and deep, you can get a lick on there. From there back to anchor bridge is about my least favourite stretch of cut round here, shallow, twisty and overhanging trees you can't really dodge without going aground. Next time I'm up there with some time on my hands I'm going to do some pruning. It was September (2013) when we got the stringy weed that totally stopped all propulsion and steerage. Cleared it whilst drifting along in the basin and then again under the new bridge on the way back. I don't recall the rest of it being too bad, although we bumped over something at the bridge just after Ogley Jn and again a bridge or two before the last one. Considering we draw 2'8" static that wasn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcoaster Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Oi! No wooden spoons with me & Dave aboard Dead chuffed - thank you - I look forward to the culinary delights aboard Cobbett CRAP. I forgot about the food thing. Team Monkey looks a bit less shiny now that I have remembered that me, Munky and MtB cannot cook anything cooler than a pot noodle between us. Oh well, I spose we'll just smoke and drink then... I have resurrected the BCNChallenge twitter thread, and will get mapping software (a good one!) sorted in good time this year! Edited November 7, 2014 by Starcoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Three times (as has been aired extensively on here) once due to my own "operator error" and twice due to boaters who don't understand that if you fill a lock from a short pound for a second time (a boat waiting to go up ahead having already taken one lockfull out) not only does it not help your progress (you have to wait in the next pound anyway) but it drops the level of the pound significantly. Never mind, I know you and Alan haven't been boating for long, you'll get the hang of it eventually. No they don't go as far as CTS, they wind at the coal basin (can't remember it's name) I went right to the end of the extension last time. But then I am a bit daft. Didn't run aground though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I went right to the end of the extension last time. But then I am a bit daft. Didn't run aground though. It's the extra weight of redundant rivets that causes other people problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham and Jo Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I am going to have a go this time. I have managed to get a crew together - my niece is insisting on dressing like Jack Sparrow. Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I am going to have a go this time. I have managed to get a crew together - my niece is insisting on dressing like Jack Sparrow. Cheers Graham Looking forward to meeting you all at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham and Jo Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Looking forward to meeting you all at last. It will be nice to meet a few members, I have met one or two in my travels. Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Looks like I have 2 choices. A join Red Wharf as ships cat. B. Start at Tipton with Halsall go straight to Bradley and eat all the food then alternate between sleeping and scaring the local wild life. Given these options I think a wise cat would sign up for Red Wharf pronto. So count me in Team Red Wharf please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Looks like I have 2 choices. A join Red Wharf as ships cat. B. Start at Tipton with Halsall go straight to Bradley and eat all the food then alternate between sleeping and scaring the local wild life. Given these options I think a wise cat would sign up for Red Wharf pronto. So count me in Team Red Wharf please. I'm starting at Tipton museum, then the next day "John the Lock" mooring then Bradley. Thus achieving a no locks challenge. Edited November 9, 2014 by Laurie.Booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pykebird Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 E mail sent, will enter as soon as it returns. Not got a clue but am sure it will be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nick you ain't a proper BCN boater till you've got stuck on some bit of exotica the locals have dumped in the cut. If all else fails there's always mud . It sometimes doesn't pay to examine the contents of a urban canal too closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Given these options I think a wise cat would sign up for Red Wharf pronto. So count me in Team Red Wharf please. Splendid! Thats team 'Red Wharf' sorted then. Not got a clue but am sure it will be fun! Fun? FUN!! Good heavens woman, you don't think we do things like the BCN Challenge for fun do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nick you ain't a proper BCN boater till you've got stuck on some bit of exotica the locals have dumped in the cut. If all else fails there's always mud . It sometimes doesn't pay to examine the contents of a urban canal too closely Well we did manage the steel-cored washing line around the prop near the basin on the old main line near Tividale (cant remember what it's called), complete with an extensive collection of ladies underwear. In particular I remember the leopard-skin panties! Fortunately it was Jeff's turn down the weed hatch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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