Chertsey Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 You can also use them to push on the opposite wall of a broad lock, to keep your boat firmly to your side whilst someone faffs about for ages trying to aim down the gap beside you, (simply take the shaft away at the last moment). I must try that, but surely it's keeping the front in place that's trickier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I must try that, but surely it's keeping the front in place that's trickier? Let the other boat push it across Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Or buy a sui I must try that, but surely it's keeping the front in place that's trickier? Let the other boat push it across Tim Or buy a suitably short boat!Seriously though, I can usually keep my front end against the wall, but the back end regularly gets "paddle wheeled" away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrinkley Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 So lets all not get to tied up with one type of boating and remember there is a lot of water out there to be enjoyed. What,s this forum called? (smiley type thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Trouble is you get used to one set of names for stuff then somebody tells you you're wrong. I first encountered a big Northwich in Bristol Harbour being used as a trip boat. Everybody referred to Redshank as a long boat, all canal boats were longboats. Logical enough . Outside of the south west folks foam at the mouth if you dare to refer to a longboat. I still think its a fair description of the type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chertsey Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Let the other boat push it across Tim Yeah, but it doesn't look cool. I was practising with Koukouvagia last week who seemed to be able to keep the front in whilst bringing the back round with ease. He did tell me how but I haven't mastered it. So I just let him go first. [where are the emoticons when you're quoting? Things have changed!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Yeah, but it doesn't look cool. I was practising with Koukouvagia last week who seemed to be able to keep the front in whilst bringing the back round with ease. He did tell me how but I haven't mastered it. So I just let him go first. [where are the emoticons when you're quoting? Things have changed!] When you reply / start a thread two task bars are displayed at the top of the window. Click on and an emoticon task bar will appear at the bottom of the window. Click on "show all" to see the full range of emoticons. FWIW the majority of my boating as a young man was offshore where the object under discussion is called a boat hook, this is what it gets called on our boat. Edited July 10, 2013 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 What,s this forum called? (smiley type thing) I do hope you are not suggesting membership be restricted to only those on canals. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yeah, but it doesn't look cool. I was practising with Koukouvagia last week who seemed to be able to keep the front in whilst bringing the back round with ease. He did tell me how but I haven't mastered it. So I just let him go first. [where are the emoticons when you're quoting? Things have changed!] Stuff the bow against the cill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 What,s this forum called? (smiley type thing) What does the forum description say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chertsey Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 When you reply / start a thread two task bars are displayed at the top of the window. Click on and an emoticon task bar will appear at the bottom of the window. Click on "show all" to see the full range of emoticons. FWIW the majority of my boating as a young man was offshore where the object under discussion is called a boat hook, this is what it gets called on our boat. But when I reply direct to a post using the 'quote' button, that bar doesn't appear? Stuff the bow against the cill Yes, that was the gist of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 What does the forum description say? Have a greenie Phylis,you gave me a good chuckle. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ibis Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Trouble is you get used to one set of names for stuff then somebody tells you you're wrong. I first encountered a big Northwich in Bristol Harbour being used as a trip boat. Everybody referred to Redshank as a long boat, all canal boats were longboats. Logical enough . Outside of the south west folks foam at the mouth if you dare to refer to a longboat. I still think its a fair description of the type. Yup, our boat Willow is a Longboat, technically, having been built for the Severn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Well...... Mine is a window pole. an oak and brass window pole scavenged from an old primary school with the high tip and tilt windows, looks like a boat hook, smells like a short pole, can be used as a cabin shaft. ....but it's a window pole! Edited August 4, 2013 by Jim Riley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ships Cat Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 The smilies are indeed not working. I just get that annoying little box with a question mark in the middle on the page when I select one. It was like this this morning. I used a cabin hook 12 times in a week just fishing a spaniel puppy out of the cut one holiday by Aynho once. It had seen the (admittedly muddy) canal and thought oh, solid surface, and jumped in. The first time. After that, being a spaniel, she discovered she liked it. And dried off on MY bunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbeierl Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 many thanks, point taken jm You can also use the angle between point and hook to offer up a coil of line to someone above or to the side of you, or to lift a coil from a peg on a dolphin. It could be shaped better for these purposes, but it works. There are some modern boathooks with a head that resembles an inverted W; two blunt points with a hollow between facing out, and one on either side of the shaft facing back toward the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pquinn Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 We don't use our hook for picking up buoys either. It's easier to get our stern near the pick up and pick it up by hand then gently let the boat sit back. Can't say it would have been much use in any of our man over board situations either. I'm sure we will find a use for it one day other than hanging rubbish bags from! over here on the river shannon or when using any lock for that matter,if there is a lock keeper in attendance,the correct procedure is to ''pass'' the rope to them and not to throw it. presumably to stop them being hit in the eyes.When passing through a very deep lock the best way to do this is to coil it around boat hook and send it up that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pquinn Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Hi All, Have purchased a long pole and a cast iron doofer that sits on the end - it has a curled hook, which ofcourse will be handy for pulling, but what's the straight poket finger-like part for ? Puzzled ! Cheers J just a small word of warning.in my experience the pole and the ''doofer'' were sold seperately so i shaved the end of the pole down and fitted the doofer and then down the line i painted the pole up all sweet and gaudy but had neglected to seal the shaved area where the doofer was fitted and the weather got to it and it rotted which only came to my attention one day when it snapped off at the doofer while i was going astern for about a half a mile single handed.When things like that happen in the wrong place at the wrong time they can lead to trouble. so seal the doofer end of your pole/shaft or whatever you like to call it....paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenevers Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 It's a pity, IMHO that the old terminology is seldom used except among us grumpy oldies. Sorry! Dave I agree with you. It's sad that the old terminology is dying out. I've no problem with people using whatever terms they like but I think it's important to remember the old ones. Eg. Paddles were known as "cloughs" (pronounced as in cows), pounds were "pools" on the L & L, I thinks pounds were called "ponds" on the Ashton Canal. On the Aire & Calder some of the ground paddle were called "types", fanshafts, boat hooks, were called "stowers", the "y" shaped end was known as a "grains" etc etc. Be a good idea to create a glossary before these terms a re completely forgotten I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 It's a pity, IMHO that the old terminology is seldom used except among us grumpy oldies. Sorry! I wholly agree. The worst offences I hear constantly are 'lock key' for windlass, and 'turning point' for winding 'ole. And 'barge pole' for longshaft, obviously! Your glossary idea is a good one too. I've not heard any of the terms you mention in your second paragraph. MtB MtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holden Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 My pet hate is "marina" which is commonly defined as a harbour (a place on the coast) where small boats and yachts can shelter. There are plenty of acceptable names for places providing shelter for inland boats. Marina is just plain ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimneyChain Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 For "Windlass" a lot of boatman referred to them as "irons" if I'm not mistaken. Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Cannot believe this thread has resurfaced a year on, thought we had said all there was to say last year and all that is being posted now is a repeat of last year. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I find one of these on a 10ft ash shaft useful at times: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattlad Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Be a good idea to create a glossary before these terms are completely forgotten I think. Good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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