Historic Boats for sale online

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

3 minutes ago, agg221 said:

It looks to me like the stern end of a Mark 2 Bantock that has been used as a bow.

 

Alec

👍

I wouldn’t normally know one end of a boat from the other but that definitely looks like a stern end to me. 

[alan_fincher]

Well it most certainly isn't the front end of a Bantock.

[MtB]

48 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

Well it most certainly isn't the front end of a Bantock.

 

Were all Bantocks horse boats? It looks like the back end of a horse boat or a butty.

 

I'm never quite clear on what a Bantock actually is.

 

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Yes all Bantocks were horse drawn. 
 

a brief introduction here

https://hnbc.org.uk/day-boats

which provides a link to a more detailed explaination

[rivergate]

..so why has Badsy still not sold..?

 

Are there other Grand Union motors available currently..? 

 

Thanks

[roland elsdon]

Yes.

Not advertised yet. 

Going on market in few weeks

 

But not full length

[James Owen]

6 hours ago, rivergate said:

..so why has Badsy still not sold..?

 

Are there other Grand Union motors available currently..? 

 

Thanks

Yes, a few. 

It depends upon what you're after.?

[DShK]

7 hours ago, rivergate said:

..so why has Badsy still not sold..?

 

Are there other Grand Union motors available currently..? 

 

Thanks

My take 

 

Too expensive for a deconversion

Bit crap for a liveaboard

Wooden forward cabin

[alan_fincher]

7 hours ago, roland elsdon said:

Yes.

Not advertised yet. 

Going on market in few weeks

 

But not full length

 

Yours?

[roland elsdon]

17 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Yours?

😪

[Chris-B]

21 hours ago, DShK said:

My take 

 

Too expensive for a deconversion

Bit crap for a liveaboard

Wooden forward cabin

We thought about it prior to CYPRUS and immediately agreed it’s not the right boat for us 

it’s not really a cabin boat as the conversion. Kn my opinion. Is shyte

and it is not financially viable to change or reconvert to working trim 

[Liam]

Starcross up for sale again via Historic Ships

 

 

https://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/news/nhs/historic-vessel-sale-1936-butty-starcross?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1OYvaOPpkCF9iUlKwvhi7Gsf5G9dferJRTXBfp5eS-WhAZGJCqSa-cXFo_aem_kD9WsaE4q5ljVM3a0jZkKQ

 

They're asking £45k.

[chris barker]

This boat has sunk a few times in the last few years I believe. They have probably had enough of it

[MtB]

7 hours ago, Liam said:

They're asking £45k.

 

Seems ambitious for a wooden butty or horse boat (not sure which it is).

 

 

 

[stagedamager]

3 hours ago, MtB said:

 

Seems ambitious for a wooden butty or horse boat (not sure which it is).

 

 

 

it's definitely a butty, small Ricky. they have done work on it, and had work done at Bates' boatyard. 45k is about 30k too much for a wooden boat that is up and down like a yo-yo....... regardless how good most of it is, you only need one bad bit, but then again, the same goes for metal boats.....

[MtB]

10 hours ago, stagedamager said:

it's definitely a butty, small Ricky. they have done work on it, and had work done at Bates' boatyard. 45k is about 30k too much for a wooden boat that is up and down like a yo-yo....... regardless how good most of it is, you only need one bad bit, but then again, the same goes for metal boats.....

 

Maybe they are of the mindset that money spent maintaining a boat raises its value by the amount just spent. Some boaters (and car owners) have this point of view. 

 

It always strikes me that steel deteriorates at about one tenth of the speed of wood. A wooden boat can rot through and begin to sink in three or four years while an equivalent steel boat takes 30 or 40 years ro do the same. 

[ditchcrawler]

[alan_fincher]

14 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

 

Well the front end looks OK...............

[Chris-B]

Too many conditions on sale tbh

i can understand preservation but feel this craft needs a bit extra 

[rivergate]

On 16/06/2024 at 20:22, DShK said:

My take 

 

Too expensive for a deconversion

Bit crap for a liveaboard

Wooden forward cabin

Yeah I agree....

 

Too much for a wooden under clothes " conversion " ..timber backcabin and survey done by a fella not heard off so much in working boat worlds.. 🤷

 

She's worth whatever someone will pay and vendor accept and Id be interested but the asking price is just to high to start the conversation..

[John Brightley]

The stern of Achilles, £69,500

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285936477684

Although only a small part is 'historic', it's still a nice boat.

[alan_fincher]

4 hours ago, John Brightley said:

The stern of Achilles, £69,500

Although only a small part is 'historic', it's still a nice boat.

Yes, from memory of the two parts on the dock the bulk of the "straight bit" ended up in the other boat.  I think there is very little of it in this one.  So the bulk of the rivets will be faked.

 

Not bad looking, though.

[MtB]

1 minute ago, alan_fincher said:

Yes, from memory of the two parts on the dock the bulk of the "straight bit" ended up in the other boat.  I think there is very little of it in this one.  So the bulk of the rivets will be faked.

 

Not bad looking, though.

 

Funny looking bow though! 

 

 

[David Mack]

45 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

Funny looking bow though! 

 

 

I remember looking at this when it was cut. Once the pointy bit that holds the top rudder pintle has been cut off and rounded over, and the bottom pintle and the anser pins cut off and ground flat, the stern end of a Small Woolwich butty is virtually identical in shape to the bow.

[Garry shepherd]

For those of you with bad memories please allow me to refresh them for you 2/3 of Achilles hull is original which makes that quite a lot of real rivets I thank you.