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alan_fincher Veteran II

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Looks a remarkably good boat for the money.

 

The only thing wrong with it I can see is the engine!

 

Already discussed previously in the thread, I think, but if you are a purist and want as much original boat as possible, then this one probably wouldn't be your top choice.

 

It was turned into a fairly short hire boat by British Waterways, and the original middle lost, so now it has been re-lengthened to full length, the new straight bit in the middle is possibly nearly as long as the combined length of the two original bits at either end.

 

(Some might say that's an advantage though - particularly those of us who have recently splashed out lots of cash on having bits of genuine boat replaced!)

Athy Veteran II

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Looks a remarkably good boat for the money.

 

The only thing wrong with it I can see is the engine!

Myopic, are we?

The interior does look pretty darned classy, apart from there apparently being no steps for access and egress at either end.

 

Thanks, Alan, for explaining which parts are original. I guess that if you're only getting half an original boat, then the front and back quarters are the best half to have. Sure an' I do now.

MtB Veteran II

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Thanks Alan. I agree this makes it more, not less attractive!

 

And yes Mr Athy, them Gardener engines is dreadful things I'm sure you'll agree...

alan_fincher Veteran II

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The interior does look pretty darned classy, apart from there apparently being no steps for access and egress at either end.

 

There are clearly steps up at the back end, and the engine room seems to have been made walk through.

 

Are we sure the front doesn't have a pair of "cottage style" doors at the top, and a single one at the bottom? This isn't a boat with a tug deck, so I would expect the door to open to under the cloths in part of the original hold, and you would then climb up on seats or whatever from there.

 

The engine could be changed for a proper narrow boat engine, of course: :lol:

And yes Mr Athy, them Gardener engines is dreadful things I'm sure you'll agree...

 

So much so that you can't be bothered to learn ho to spell them?

MtB Veteran II

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So much so that you can't be bothered to learn ho to spell them?

 

 

I'm sure Mr Athy recognised me taking the p!sh out of them with my deliberate misspelling, given he has a Gardiner like it in his own bote!

Athy Veteran II

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I'm sure Mr Athy recognised me taking the p!sh out of them with my deliberate misspelling, given he has a Gardiner like it in his own bote!

Better than one of they Melvin thingybobs like some folks do have.

 

Actually, "Melvin the Kelvin" has a certain ring to it, though I'm not sure that Mr. Alnwick would concur.

MtB Veteran II

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My other engine is a Gleniffer. LOADS of scope for misspelling there too!


Good suggestion about the Melvin...


Better than one of they Melvin thingybobs like some folks do have.

 

 

Oi hold on a sec, what do you mean 'better'? Melvyn the Kelvyn is clearly superior as he is GREEN!

Athy Veteran II

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Are we sure the front doesn't have a pair of "cottage style" doors at the top, and a single one at the bottom?

That's possible, Alan, though the bottom panel doesn't look like an exit door, but more like a cupboard door. Looking at the layout of the galley, I'd suggest that there's a set of steps which have to be removable because, if they weren't, you wouldn't be able to open the fridge door - perhaps a surprising layout in a boat which has such a great deal of interior space.

 

Good suggestion about the Melvin...

 

 

To go with Jennifer the Gleniffer, eh?

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Better than one of they Melvin thingybobs like some folks do have.

 

Actually, "Melvin the Kelvin" has a certain ring to it, though I'm not sure that Mr. Alnwick would concur.

We've been calling our Kelvin "Melvin" for years.

 

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29571&p=515729

 

and

 

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=32192&p=569105

 

It all started when the Stationery Engine magazine did a feature on Kelvin engines. I've no idea when they took a photo of our engine, but on the front cover of the magazine, in large type, it referred to Melvin engines and the name stuck.

MtB Veteran II

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That's possible, Alan, though the bottom panel doesn't look like an exit door, but more like a cupboard door. Looking at the layout of the galley, I'd suggest that there's a set of steps which have to be removable because, if they weren't, you wouldn't be able to open the fridge door - perhaps a surprising layout in a boat which has such a great deal of interior space.

To go with Jennifer the Gleniffer, eh?

 

 

Ahem. Jeniffer!

Her name is called JENIFFER!! :D

alan_fincher Veteran II

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Ahem. Jeniffer!

Her name is called JENIFFER!! biggrin.png

 

What is the Skandia currently called then?

 

(Or if you actually told us what you call it, would it result in an instant ban from CWDF?)

MtB Veteran II

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What is the Skandia currently called then?

 

(Or if you actually told us what you call it, would it result in an instant ban from CWDF?)

 

 

Yes its called a noisy bar steward and it's coming out when Richard finishes fixing Jeniffer unless I find a solution in the meantime!

mark99 Veteran II

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Looks a remarkably good boat for the money.

 

The only thing wrong with it I can see is the engine!

 

Tempting....... very tempting.

Jrtm Experienced

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Yes its called a noisy bar steward and it's coming out when Richard finishes fixing Jeniffer unless I find a solution in the meantime!

You not enjoying having a big single lump?

 

You not thought of puiing a 4inch exhaust on with a lorry silancer running across the roof and out? £5 says i can make it quieter!

pete harrison Veteran

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Looks a remarkably good boat for the money.

 

The only thing wrong with it I can see is the engine!

There are three things I can see that are 'wrong':

 

1 - HARE was never fitted with a fore cabin.

2 - F.M.C. Ltd. fore cabins did not have 'Yarwoods' G.U.C.C.Co. Ltd. type handrails.

3 - HARE is a 'Josher' (which is clearly unappealing when there are nice 'Grand Unions' about).

 

But each to their own captain.gif

alan_fincher Veteran II

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There are three things I can see that are 'wrong':

 

1 - HARE was never fitted with a fore cabin.

2 - F.M.C. Ltd. fore cabins did not have 'Yarwoods' G.U.C.C.Co. Ltd. type handrails.

3 - HARE is a 'Josher' (which is clearly unappealing when there are nice 'Grand Unions' about).

 

But each to their own captain.gif

 

4) And the chimney collar for the Squirrel is leaking!......

MtB Veteran II

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You not enjoying having a big single lump?

 

You not thought of puiing a 4inch exhaust on with a lorry silancer running across the roof and out? £5 says i can make it quieter!

 

 

Reducing the diameter to 4" lwill make it worse, don'tcher think?

 

But yes a lorry silencer had crossed my mind, but fitting it in will be a right load of trouble...

 

Yes enjoying the engine in principle but not enjoying the noise. You're welcome to have a bash at fitting a lorry silencer if you're serious. Happy to shell out more than £5 too if you can improve it!

Jrtm Experienced

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Ill pm you but im happy to look it all comes down to the space you have. Youll never get a small semi like that to be as quiet as say a jp2 but you can get them down to a low note.

The way i would do it is out the stock silancer into a lorry one the out threw the roof threw a big exhaust.

I thought your exhaust collar that was fitted was smaller than a bolinder one?

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mark99 Veteran II

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3 - HARE is a 'Josher' (which is clearly unappealing when there are nice 'Grand Unions' about).

 

Josher bow is a Jaguar, the GU are more like Morris Bullnoses. ;)

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Josher bow is a Jaguar, the GU are more like Morris Bullnoses. wink.png

 

Which Josher bow is the best then? ........ at least 7 to choose from.

magnetman Veteran II

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They are all nice. Only one I have seen up close and personal was Kimberley when she was for sale at Braunston in c1995,

 

Beautiful boat built as a butty by FMC Saltley later converted to a motor by Yarwoods apparently.

 

Nice :wub:

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Which Josher bow is the best then? ........ at least 7 to choose from.

The wooden one!!!

 

I love the lines of the bow on the b&k bows there a little more elegant. But i still cant be a nice wooden bow personaly

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