gaggle Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Mr Peter Ponting has stated elsewhere that boaters he speaks to are of the opinion that boats with no valid licence on display should be set adrift , he states he is now in Lancashire sailing his narrowboat PEEWEE so i imagine the other boaters he claims share his opinions about setting boats adrift are also in Lancashire and on the Leeds & Liverpool canal , i have not come across any people who hold such opinions as this on the Leeds & Liverpool or indeed any of the other canals or rivers i have cruised on , i have met people who would gladly give a good hiding to people who think its ok to set boats adrift , is this fella for real ? do lots of boaters feel such vile feeling of hatred against boats not showing an up to date licence that they would set them adrift. I will be keeping a look out on our moorings as it seems he is heading this way ,suggest others watch out boats near them dont get set adrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Mr Peter Ponting has stated elsewhere that boaters he speaks to are of the opinion that boats with no valid licence on display should be set adrift , he states he is now in Lancashire sailing his narrowboat PEEWEE so i imagine the other boaters he claims share his opinions about setting boats adrift are also in Lancashire and on the Leeds & Liverpool canal , i have not come across any people who hold such opinions as this on the Leeds & Liverpool or indeed any of the other canals or rivers i have cruised on , i have met people who would gladly give a good hiding to people who think its ok to set boats adrift , is this fella for real ? do lots of boaters feel such vile feeling of hatred against boats not showing an up to date licence that they would set them adrift. I will be keeping a look out on our moorings as it seems he is heading this way ,suggest others watch out boats near them dont get set adrift. Boats with a valid licence for a variety of reasons might not actually display them so this seems a tad drastic to say the least... BTW who is Peter Ponting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelunga Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I do not think it right to set the boats adrift, but I do hate piss takers that free load off the rest of us by not paying for a boat license though. It was the same when I was an Inspector on the buses. Drivers that fiddled the fare and kept stuff for themselves and passengerts that tried to avoid paying their fares were equally contemptable, preventing the company making revenue and eventually bankrupting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 BTW who is Peter Ponting? Isn't he the guy with the hots for Penelope Pitstop in Wacky Races? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Yeah let's set these boats adrift so they are obstructing the canal for other boaters who may or may not be legitimately displaying a licence. Never heard of him but he sounds like an arsehole who wants to inconvenience all boaters cruising along behind him just so he can play his small minded power games. Edited August 3, 2012 by carlt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Well he appears to put articles onto NBW: http://www.narrowboatworld.com/index.php/features/4528-boating-observations Lately mentioned: http://www.narrowboatworld.com/index.php/leatest/4676-illegal-moorers-need-sorting-out Edited August 3, 2012 by Graham Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Set them adrift? Certainly not. Sink them, I say! ....let's start with Mr. Poncing's, just to show the others how it's done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Well he appears to put articles onto NBW: That'll be why I've never heard of him. Maybe if his untying ruse doesn't work he'll be suggesting sinking the boats across the canal to really inconvenience everyone else. Edited to add: cross-posted with Mr A. Edited August 3, 2012 by carlt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Isn't he the guy with the hots for Penelope Pitstop in Wacky Races? Richard Pending or Perfect I think I've got my whacky racers confused.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I do not think it right to set the boats adrift, but I do hate piss takers that free load off the rest of us by not paying for a boat license though. It was the same when I was an Inspector on the buses. Drivers that fiddled the fare and kept stuff for themselves and passengerts that tried to avoid paying their fares were equally contemptable, preventing the company making revenue and eventually bankrupting it. Not displaying a valid licence is not the same as not paying for a licence though is it? Isn't he the guy with the hots for Penelope Pitstop in Wacky Races? Richard Nah, that was Peter Perfect who drove a Porsche Ponting Pending or Perfect I think I've got my whacky racers confused.... The inventor guy was Pat Pending i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Not displaying a valid licence is not the same as not paying for a licence though is it? No Nah, that was Peter Perfect who drove a Porsche Ponting I thought you were younger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 What's the name of his boat , we should track his progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame r Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) It was the same when I was an Inspector on the buses. Drivers that fiddled the fare and kept stuff for themselves and passengerts that tried to avoid paying their fares were equally contemptable, preventing the company making revenue and eventually bankrupting it. Yes, and that Butler was a right sod, I hated him. Edited August 3, 2012 by grahame r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I thought you were younger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 He says his boat is PEEWEE and he was 10 miles into Lancashire at the time he posted , he may approach your boat to ask your opinion about non licence displaying boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leeparkinson Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Makes me laugh there is a boat on the Leeds and Liverpool canal that when they first started out my dad was the lengths man they never paid there licence and now they go round reporting everyone else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeddy11 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 My boat isnt displaying a valid license as its sitting in my hallway with this god awful weather i havent had chance to get it on the boat... Hope it hasnt been cast adrift !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 The only reason people keep unlicensed boats on the inland waterway network is because they can......if there was a rigid enforcement policy and positive action taken against persistent non-licence holders, then the towpath grapevine would soon send the message that you need to sort it out, or lose the boat. Of course, accepting that licence not displayed doesn't necessarily mean no licence; that there may be exceptional circumstances; and so long as there's adequate checks & balances. The real problem is probably that with the volume of non-licensed boats, there would be a net positive cost in properly dealing with the problem. However its still unfair on those who do pay up regularly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twbm Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 My boat isnt displaying a valid license as its sitting in my hallway with this god awful weather i havent had chance to get it on the boat... Hope it hasnt been cast adrift !!! Your boats in the hallway?? Oh, sorry ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leeparkinson Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) I want to know how they can take a boat with no licence surely the only way they can take your boat from you is if the dept reaches the value of the boat .If a bailiff comes to your house they only take enough to cover the bill so to me them takin your boat is theft Edited August 3, 2012 by leeparkinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Brown Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I would suggest that promoting a campaign to cast boats adrift makes it likely that he will be charged for any damage caused to or by any loose boat. Repairs to boat, weir, bridge, lock etc. could soon land on his plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 We're setting our boat adrift tomorrow morning. Yippee!!! Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I want to know how they can take a boat with no licence surely the only way they can take your boat from you is if the dept reaches the value of the boat .If a bailiff comes to your house they only take enough to cover the bill so to me them takin your boat is theft Its called "Section 8" Done via the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leeparkinson Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Its called "Section 8" Done via the court. I know about the section 8 but they don't follow the full rules to how they obtain a section 8 Edited August 3, 2012 by leeparkinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 The real problem is probably that with the volume of non-licensed boats, there would be a net positive cost in properly dealing with the problem. Does anyone actually have any estimates or figures on the number of non-licenced boats, and the proportion compared to licenced boats? I'd be interested to know what the "volume" of the problem actually is. It sounds like Peter Ponting (or whatever his name is), hasn't thought things through. Boats set adrift could then potentially come downstream and smash into weirs, and other infrastructure, or even into my boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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