EllaGlssp Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 In the process of buying this wonderful broad narrowboat built by A&B Wroe. Taken out the water and she has a little heart on the rudder - anyone seen this before? Is it common? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Yes, but not just hearts. It is a hole to allow you to tie a rope on so if, when working on the rudder it falls out you can pull it back aboard. Most NB rudders just sit in a cup or hole at the bottom so if you manage to lift it without the tiller on it, it is likely to fall down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 The heart is common, Gary Gorton boats all have them. The hole is handy for tying the rudder over when moored to stop it whanging about when boats pass ( too fast ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I think I wouldn't bother much about the rudder cut out, but want to concern myself more about the tube that is pointing at an angle downwards. Is this a raw water cooling outlet, (or perhaps even an exhaust)? Either way, it seems to be in a very odd place to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilllearning Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I think I wouldn't bother much about the rudder cut out, but want to concern myself more about the tube that is pointing at an angle downwards. Is this a raw water cooling outlet, (or perhaps even an exhaust)? Either way, it seems to be in a very odd place to me. I wondered about that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam & Di Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I can't understand what the curved brush thing is either. Tam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 A7B Wroe built some very unusual boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tam & Di said: I can't understand what the curved brush thing is either. Tam Just a guess, but a draft excluder over a slot in a wheelhouse, associated with some sort of wheel steering linkage? Edited October 14, 2022 by Jen-in-Wellies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: Just a guess, but a draft excluder over a slot in a wheelhouse, associated with some sort of wheel steering linkage? I was thinking that. The tube looks black enough to suggest it might be an exhaust, but a "broad narrowboat"? So it's a 'wide boat'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam & Di Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Derek R. said: I was thinking that. The tube looks black enough to suggest it might be an exhaust It might just be the quality of the photo, but to me it looked like a newly cut piece of tube with a shiney end. Perhaps Ella could enlighten us. Tam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said: The heart is common, Gary Gorton boats all have them. The hole is handy for tying the rudder over when moored to stop it whanging about when boats pass ( too fast ) I've got a Garry Gorton boat. It has a heart in the rudder, and hearts at the bottom of the gas locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Ive seen duck ones too several times, theres a boat around the N Oxford called Teal which seems an appropriate name to have a duck shaped hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 There are the heron one too, Heron Boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllaGlssp Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 21:04, Derek R. said: I was thinking that. The tube looks black enough to suggest it might be an exhaust, but a "broad narrowboat"? So it's a 'wide boat'? it’s an exhaust, yes. the boat is very undusual- somewhere between a dutch barge and a narrowboat. 9ft wide, with wheelhouse and a 9 horsepower gardner engine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hp. Stay off the rivers! Unless they are quiet (not running). A single cylinder? I'm guessing the brush allows the movement of a quadrant attached to the rudder shaft to protrude without too much ingress of wind or water. Nice width for accommodation, but restrictive on waterways access. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllaGlssp Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Derek R. said: 9 hp. Stay off the rivers! Unless they are quiet (not running). A single cylinder? I'm guessing the brush allows the movement of a quadrant attached to the rudder shaft to protrude without too much ingress of wind or water. Nice width for accommodation, but restrictive on waterways access. Good luck with it. 90 hp sorry (big difference haha). the engine is a gardner 4lw. i’ve lived on a narrowboat in london for the past year and plenty have much bigger boats than this! she’s only 40ft long as well. she has a vintage astern/afoot throttle wheel as well as a big wooden steering wheel cheers! *correction*: it’s actually 60hp, still enough to be getting on with Edited October 23, 2022 by EllaGlssp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 That's more like it! Excellent engines. Had a 6LW (94hp) in our Dutchman. Built 1889. Still around - somewhere in France as a house boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllaGlssp Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 france! that’s the dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 It was a bit bigger than 9' x 40' though. More like 16' x 110'. Unconverted, we lived in the crews quarters aft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Derek R. said: It was a bit bigger than 9' x 40' though. More like 16' x 110'. Unconverted, we lived in the crews quarters aft. In London on the GU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: In London on the GU? No, Thames waters, further up river. Managed to get West to Caversham and on one memorable journey to Southend-on-Sea. That's her Wheel in my avatar. Edited October 23, 2022 by Derek R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllaGlssp Posted October 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) On 14/10/2022 at 21:04, Derek R. said: I was thinking that. The tube looks black enough to suggest it might be an exhaust, but a "broad narrowboat"? So it's a 'wide boat'? yes is a slightly wider beam narrowboat. a touch of dutch barge about her with the wheelhouse, bow thruster and bow roller the pipe is an exhaust- agree it’s slightly oddly positioned, might get it changed eventually but according to survey not unsafe in non-tidal waters one of the most unusual parts is the vintage ahead / astern wheel to control propulsion, as well as the steering wheel Edited October 30, 2022 by EllaGlssp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Looks to me like the boats been sat with its back end lower in the water then it should. If the boat was sitting proper with the heart visible above the water then the exhaust outlet would be at the usual height, wouldn’t it? The pipe I guess is simply to clear fumes past the extended overhang. I like the wheels 👍 Edited October 30, 2022 by Goliath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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