Laurie Booth Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Poor Clarrie, broken down and needing a replacement gear box I'm on the Coventry Canal bridge 78. RCR coming to fix it.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Are you sure it needs a new gearbox? New or RCR/Key repainted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Sorry to hear it old chap 😢 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 We were on the Cov yesterday so just missed you. Last but one time we met you had a broken gearbox, do you break one every year? 😀 ............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Sorry to hear here as well. RCR will fix it or replace it unless there’s a clause that might suggest otherwise. I don’t think there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Nightwatch said: Sorry to hear here as well. RCR will fix it or replace it unless there’s a clause that might suggest otherwise. I don’t think there is. Up to a certain value. Mine cost £1600 and they contributed £1000 towards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Arthur Marshall said: Up to a certain value. Mine cost £1600 and they contributed £1000 towards it. That’s not bad I suppose. Didn’t realise there’s a cap on value covered. But you have a new gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Wouldn’t let RCR within a mile of my boat. The incompetence is astounding. I trust you expect to buy a complete new engine/transmission/boat If you listen to their advice when you probably need an o ring….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 We have considered and dismissed the idea of RCR over and over again. For me, as I see it, there’s many get out clauses, like any other insurance company I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 If it's any consolation mine gave up today too. Not great when you stop to clear a lot of weed off the prop and it rotates... less . Unlike other issues I've had with losing drive this one isn't remedied (temporarily) by topping up the oil RCR will get called tomorrow after a chat with the bloke who originally rebuilt it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 42 minutes ago, Nightwatch said: That’s not bad I suppose. Didn’t realise there’s a cap on value covered. But you have a new gearbox. A repaired one, twice. Each time they chucked me a grand, so I'm not complaining. It would take over thirty years of subs to cover that. They've also replaced the starter, and done a couple of repairs. They have also left me in the lurch twice because they sent incompetent engineers who knew nothing about Listers and I had to pay for my own. Usually, now, they listen when I insist on a Lister specialist. I treat them as an insurance policy and a last resort. It means I know I can get someone more competent than me to help when I break down, and in the worst case get a tow to a yard. Most of their employees, in my experience, only know modern engines, they use contractors for the old ones. 37 minutes ago, Nightwatch said: We have considered and dismissed the idea of RCR over and over again. For me, as I see it, there’s many get out clauses, like any other insurance company I suppose. Not really. What's covered is pretty specific, and they don't quibble about it. If you are reasonably competent with engines yourself, you don't need them. For those of us who aint, they have their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said: A repaired one, twice. Each time they chucked me a grand, so I'm not complaining. It would take over thirty years of subs to cover that. They've also replaced the starter, and done a couple of repairs. They have also left me in the lurch twice because they sent incompetent engineers who knew nothing about Listers and I had to pay for my own. Usually, now, they listen when I insist on a Lister specialist. I treat them as an insurance policy and a last resort. It means I know I can get someone more competent than me to help when I break down, and in the worst case get a tow to a yard. Most of their employees, in my experience, only know modern engines, they use contractors for the old ones. Not really. What's covered is pretty specific, and they don't quibble about it. If you are reasonably competent with engines yourself, you don't need them. For those of us who aint, they have their place. This ^^^^ is why I don't join! A. I'm relatively competent and carry tools and spares, but, and more pertinent, B. I can't afford to subsidise Arthur! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 I am wondering what box has broken twice, and now it seems thrice. I know which I suspect and if I could afford it, it would be changed PDQ for something less well known for failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilllearning Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: I am wondering what box has broken twice, and now it seems thrice. I know which I suspect and if I could afford it, it would be changed PDQ for something less well known for failing. A box name beginning H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said: Are you sure it needs a new gearbox? New or RCR/Key repainted? I think it is the drive plate but RCR says it is the gearbox. We shall see who is right. 17 hours ago, dmr said: We were on the Cov yesterday so just missed you. Last but one time we met you had a broken gearbox, do you break one every year? 😀 ............Dave Hi Dave, it was the drive plate that was broken when we last met, not the gearbox. Edited August 10, 2021 by Laurie Booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 16 hours ago, Nightwatch said: Sorry to hear here as well. RCR will fix it or replace it unless there’s a clause that might suggest otherwise. I don’t think there is. Not in my case, I'm just on a retainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Laurie Booth said: I think it is the drive plate but RCR says it is the gearbox. We shall see who is right. Hi Dave, it was the drive plate that was broken when we last met, not the gearbox. RCR love saying it’s a major component…one boat I helped said they needed a new gearbox/engine…turned out to be a jammed inlet valve that was sorted by taking the head off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 13 hours ago, frangar said: Wouldn’t let RCR within a mile of my boat. The incompetence is astounding. I trust you expect to buy a complete new engine/transmission/boat If you listen to their advice when you probably need an o ring….. Who would you suggest to repair my boat? 12 hours ago, enigmatic said: If it's any consolation mine gave up today too. Not great when you stop to clear a lot of weed off the prop and it rotates... less . Unlike other issues I've had with losing drive this one isn't remedied (temporarily) by topping up the oil RCR will get called tomorrow after a chat with the bloke who originally rebuilt it... Hope all goes well for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Laurie Booth said: Who would you suggest to repair my boat? I’d phone James Packer of jimms where you are at the moment. 07845 277058 I think is his current number. Failing that one of the local hire bases. Edited to add or @RLWP of this parish….trading as marine engine services Midlands. Edited August 10, 2021 by frangar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Stilllearning said: A box name beginning H? Great minds etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, frangar said: I’d phone James Packer of jimms where you are at the moment. 07845 277058 I think is his current number. Failing that one of the local hire bases. Edited to add or @RLWP of this parish….trading as marine engine services Midlands. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 My views on RCR and Key are well known on here so I will not repeat the horror stories that I have witnessed. Hurth mechanical gearbox? if so and it is genuinely shot, I would suggest a new PRM. https://www.prm-newage.com/c12-mechanicalR&D PRM 60, 90 or 125 depending on your set up, more reliable and almost the same cost as a full repair on a Hurst. If its a drive plate again, have a chat with R&D for a better than standard plate, they can send to you very fast. http://www.randdmarine.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Gear box being fitted Tuesday, so fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Laurie Booth said: Gear box being fitted Tuesday, so fingers crossed. Who did you find to diagnose and do the work in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, frangar said: Who did you find to diagnose and do the work in the end? RCR, let's see if it's gearbox or drive plate. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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