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Narrowboat stove flue, coming out of sidewall.
David Mack replied to 19Granny66's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
A heat pump typically puts out about three times as much heat energy to the house as it takes from the electricity supply. But domestic electricity is about three times the cost of gas or heating oil per unit of energy, so the running costs of a heat pump central heating system are about the same as one powered by a conventional gas or oil fired boiler. -
As above when I put the immersion heater on my pressure relief valve let’s buy about a 400ml now I turn the immersion heater down so it’s about 50% but Stuart but I have change the pressure relief valve and the water pump cut off pressure is 1.7 and the pressure relief valve is free bar so even with the increase of pressure through the heat in the cylinder that should be adequate I’ve tried to find the cylinder Midlands Chandlers and the similar size size maximum is three bar so this should work it’s pressure relief valve
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This + red diesel for heating?
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What on earth are they doing to use more than 100l of diesel per week, assuming they're not cruising all day every day with the diesel heating on 24/7?
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I've had a problem with sludge in my day tank caused by diesel bug, and have removed the tank to clean it out. I've also disconnected my fuel lines and ascertained that they are not blocked, but there seems to be a fine layer of black something on the walls inside them. If I were to reassemble everything, I'm sure that there'd be no problem with getting the engine to run, but I'm concerned that, over time, whatever is inside the fuel lines may eventually multiply and cause a blockage. Removing the fuel lines completely is not an option due to the way the system has been assembled. Does anyone have a suggestion as to something I could run through the fuel lines to clean them out fully, please?
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I think I was wrong, www says red can no longer be used in a generator, I had got confused between generation and non commercial heating. I think that currently HVO can not be used for heating so this pretty much prevents using any red HVO in a boat. This all relates to various subsidies on HVO which were devised without any consideratiion to boating. There are people working hard to get this changed as HVO makes a lot of sense on the Inland waterways, but paying full duty for propulsion, battery charging and heating is not attractive even if it was legal. Red diesel is currently pretty much limited to farming, forestry and boat heating. (and I think domestic heating though this is normally done with kerosine/ heating oil). A possible loophole is to get a trading licence so that your boat becomes a commercial boat......but this has more costs 😀
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I am not a live aboard and I moor my boat in a reasonably low end marina. I would say my standing cost is about £5000 per year, that is before I even visit the boat. A residential mooring would probably cost £3000 a year more, then electricity, gas, coal for heating and diesel to get to the pumpout which will probably cost £20 a time.
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I may have been one. I usually intend to use diesel mostly for heating when I buy it.
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Just a quickie my webasto heater boiler being in engine room, one one side feeds all the radiators (4) in one direction to the main living area i have a bedroom on the other side of engine room so if I was going to put a radiator in the back bedroom. to connect the heating pipes is it just conecting to the start of the run of the 2 pipes, that feeds the other rads in the main living area by replacing the 2 elbows for 2 T pieces? maybe silly question I know col
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Morning all, Im looking at installing diesel heating for domestic hot water and heating on a 45x10ft new build, but know little of the competing systems nor the considerations around system design. I've read various posts around their troublesome nature if not run for particular times, at particular capacities. Being totally in the dark, I was keen to have a conversation with both a supplier so that I can get an understanding of options and costs, but also some guidance on system design. What are the considerations for number radiators/heating capacity etc... etc If anyone has had good experience of firms who can provide that advice I'd be grateful for recommendations. Thanks Tim
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My experience at work looking after modern diesel generators is the amount of ad-blue they use is crazy. Ends up costing a fortune. -
Petrol- and diesel-powered boats face being phased out of use on the Norfolk Broads, as the area's authority aims to reach carbon-zero status within the next two decades. The Broads Authority (BA) has outlined its goal to reduce emissions to zero by 2040 in its latest five-year plan. It hopes to achieve carbon neutrality ten years earlier, by 2030. While the targets relate to the organisation and its activities, rather than to the waterways themselves, the document does emphasise how the BA intends to encourage boaters to switch from petrol and diesel vessels to electric craft. The organisation has also been working with researchers and businesses on its 'Electrifying the Broads' project to explore what infrastructure might be needed to transition the Broads boating industry to electric, for example by increasing the number of charging points. In 2019, when the authority was looking at increasing the toll it charges people to use vessels on its waterways, it decided to charge diesel and petrol vessels a higher increase of 2.9pc, while users of unpowered, hybrid and electric boats were only asked to pay an extra 1pc. More here : Norfolk Broads: petrol and diesel boats to be phased out | Eastern Daily Press (edp24.co.uk) Will C&RT be following their lead ?
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Of course it can. The Business Rates on it will have gone up, and the interest on the loan taken to buy it will have rocketed. As will have the cost of mowing it (diesel and maintenance costs) and labour too, as minimum wage increases every year.
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Lithium-Ion Batteries, Engine Oil, Electric Winches
IanD replied to Peugeot 106's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
A diesel generator (25% typical efficiency) uses about 0.4l of diesel per kWh generated, so depending on how much you pay for diesel this means you're paying about 50p/kWh for leccy -- which is something like double what marinas charge for shoreline power. A diesel boat engine driving an alternator (standard setup) to charge batteries is about 10% efficient, meaning it uses about 1l of diesel per kWh generated, so this costs about 5x what shoreline power does. This all assumes LFP batteries which have very low charge/discharge losses and unlike LA don't need regular equalisation charging for hours, which would put fuel consumption and cost up even more. -
Not if I go out cruising, then the generator is needed -- unless you cruise only a bit, only in summer, or *very* slowly... 😉 (also heating is diesel)
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The price for the diesel that we put in our boats includes 11.14p per litre lower rate of duty. This is part of the purchase cost paid by the vendor. The declaration that we make is for the percentage of the higher rate of duty which is charged on propulsion. The total duty for a litre of fuel for propulsion is 57.95p, so the percentage applies to the difference between the two duty rates of 46.81p. VAT on fuel used for heating is 5% but it is 20% on fuel used for propulsion.
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Hi all. The mechanical fuel lift pump diaphragm rotted and developed a hole on my Isuzu 3KC1, called Engines Plus and the diaphragm is no longer available as a part...but they could sell me a whole new lift pump at £890 + VAT! I've fitted a low pressure Facet electric pump and blanked off the mechanical pump. The Facet has 1/8 NPTF female connections, which have a taper and are meant to seal without sealant, without relying on metal-metal contact at the base of the fitting. However, I can't get it to stop leaking, drips about once every 5 min. On each side there's an 1/8 NPTF male to 1/4" BSPT female adaptor, followed by a 1/4" BSPT male to 8mm female compression fitting to get it to connect with the 8mm copper fuel line. Couldn't find an 1/8 NPTF to 8mm compression fitting anywhere! That all doesn't leak, it's just the thread at the pump. Anyway, I've tried a few different brands of 1/8 NPTF adaptor - brass and steel - and they all leak. I don't want to overtighten it, and the threads in the pump all look good. Some sort of sealant maybe? Any ideas welcome, I'm going mad. Thanks!
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Electric propulsion with generator ?
mrsmelly replied to waterworks's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
Cost. It's much more expensive to add in electric motors oh and of course more complex than a simple gearbox bolted to the diesel engine. What's not to like 😉 -
Once off purchases of HVO in 20litre containers cost me GBP43 plus delivery. Not crazy prices, but yes, much more than red diesel.
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Narrowboat stove flue, coming out of sidewall.
Ronaldo47 replied to 19Granny66's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
On a radio phone-in last year, someone was complaining that, after having upgraded her insulation, putting in double glazing, and replacing her gas boiler by a heat pump, she had been rewarded by her house being awarded a lower energy rating than it had had with the gas boiler. This was because the star rating reflects running costs and the cost of the electricity required to run the heat pump was greater than the cost had been to run the gas boiler. -
Calorifier can of course be heated by 3 sources (at least), the engine - which is "free", an electric immersion heater (if you have shore power or a genny) or by whatever you use for central heating (diesel, gas or solid fuel stove). Instant gas water heater is a solution that doesn't require any electricity or engine running or diesel, and you only heat what you need, but the downside is a fairly slow flow rate making winter showers a bit miserable.
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Bulk red diesel delivery & storage tanks
Alan de Enfield replied to jupiter1124's topic in General Boating
But did you look at the others linked ? £300 & £750 in the greater scheme of boating costs, that is 'just a few 100s' How much were you budgeting on for a tank ? Getting an 'approved' plastic tank (as used for central heating kerosene) will cost over £1000, and with delivery on top, then a few £100 more for a pump and dispensing hose and nozzle it's way more than a bowser. Best 1000L Bunded Heating Oil Tank | Quick Delivery (quicktanks.co.uk)
