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I believe it was Francis Wheen who said (I paraphrase) that the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the British public is the widespread belief that you can have both better public services and lower taxes.

I ran a ceilidh at a historic boat gathering at Ellesmere Port, many years ago. Most of the folk were there to have a good time but there was one bloke who obviously considered himself a character, in full trad-boat getup, and who kept interrupting the calling of the dances, tried to get the mic off me etc. I finally lost my rag and told him to either get stuck in or go forth and procreate which, rather to my surprise, got a round of applause. I suspect most of the "working" boaters know it's a fairly daft hobby and have as low an opinion of the plonkers as some of us do. But the plonkers do hit remarkable heights of plonkdom.

Interesting Monbiot article in today's Grauniad, which quotes a historian as saying, basically, that money and power always, in any society throughout history, get concentrated at the top, and the only times inequality has been reduced, ever, is through either mass warfare, violent revolution, state collapse or plague. Logical enough. I have no doubt there will be a few millionaire Labourites caught with their fingers in the till in the next few years , assuming they win the election. It's just what people do. What governments don't do is look after their population, or its infrastructure, unless seriously kicked, any more than the law does. They just look after themselves. The trick is to find the weak spot and keep kicking.

I’m sad to hear the op had a bad experience. Hope the bad memory will fade. However wasn’t the boater who held up the op and winded in front of him yet couldn’t let the op past despite obviously going slower than other boats as well as planning to stop for lunch the root of the problem? The Historic owners I know are great, do much volunteering, look after the area help other boaters as well as maintain the historic perspective to canal life. I’m sure we can all come up with stories but compared to historic boats I’ve had many more stories about non historic owners.

The Latin name is Panthera (Pl)Onca. I have been boating for over 50 years, indeed my first two holidays were on camping boats, so I am familiar with their handling, but have not encountered such arrogance before. I know some of the historic boat owners at Alvecote, who passed my mooring regularly and they are nice normal people who exchange pleasantries as they pass. I can only assume that a fisherman must have left his stash of misery pills behind and this individual found them and took the lot in one go.

The irony being, the dredger is an actual, working, boat, and is fully entitled to being given priority in your situation. While the "historic"* boat owner is just pretending and is no better than any other boater. *They're not even really historic, they're just old. They're not that rare, and the canals started out and ran a long time with horse drawn boats. They are just a point in time some time after the invention of the diesel engine but before the canals stopped being used for commercial traffic.

If they are going to allow other tradesmen to work in their marina they are entitled to take reasonable steps to ensure that the tradesman is insured and not a risk to the marina itself or to the other boats moored there and is not going to cause undue disturbance to marina staff, other moorers or neighbours. It follows that they can make a reasonable charge for verifying the tradesman's status. Whether £50 per day is a reasonable charge in the circumstances is a matter that could ultimately only be determined by a court. The easy answer, as suggested above, is to have the work done outside the marina.

This presumes that everyone only cruises during “office hours” which is incorrect. Especially in winter when it gets dark very early, just because it is dark doesn’t mean it’s ok to moor on services/lock landings etc. At night it is even more problematic to find such things blocked by moored boats. Anyway, it is contrary to the “rules” so why do historic boat owners think they are exempt? What would happen if everyone did it?

Na, if the high buildings go ahead we will have to contend with wind surfers... 🤣

I had a run-in with four of these arseholes about 15 years ago, haven't forgotten it and won't, I have a long memory for such incidents. If I came across any of them now, in trouble, I would gladly watch them struggle. In my case, there were four full length historic boats with multiple crew, I was on a 40' tug on my own so absolutely nothing I could do to stop them. Something big calibre mounted on the roof would have been handy!

I don't disagree with you, just answering your question. I think it would be rather lovely to preserve these stables (and the rest of salvageable Gas Street) as an oasis amongst the new development. One can often act as a counterpoint to the other and they end up enhancing one other.

Thanks for the responses. The basin is not one of the S&SY Improvement works authorised by the BW Act 1974, so I'll go with Peterboat's information that it was a failed leisure development scheme.

Paddle boards!

With a small budget your limited But my advise Decide how you want to use your boat and where your going to moor it, Marina living, or other fixed mooring, is totally different from continuously cruising And will reflect in the needs of the boat, It's very easy to fall for a boat because it looks nice only to find out its not suitable for your needs An example hot water, we've had plenty of neighbours who have brought a boat only to find there's no hot water unless you run the engine, ok if your moving everyday or on the towpath, but not in a marina, not good for your engine or neighbours, We always advise to hire if you haven't already, there's a vast difference between the dreams of boat ownership and the reality, Hire in the autumn, cheaper, quieter ,cooler, this will also give you confidence, the reality of the network,, managing the boat systems, power, water, toilet, realisation of just how much space you haven't got, Then Make a ist, Must haves Would likes Maybes Definite no's Examples, 240v 12v both toilet, pumpout, cassette Bed, fixed or make up Type of heating, coal fire, diesel fire, diesel CH, Then edit and edit and edit the lists, when you've got 3 or 4 items under each heading your probably there, Then go looking Plenty of brokers, and apollo duck to look at, Remember pictures say a thousand words and show a thousand lies, Good luck

I'm fine, just fed up with people moaning about things being broken while not making the connection with their reluctance to pay for them to be fixed... 😞

It was extremely easy to use, I sprayed it on 2.5 nozzle 10% thinners and double header coat half down and same again. The finish was excellent if you look at the stern the reflection is extremely good for a gun finish, one coat was enough although they are heavy coats. Yours looks in excellent condition in comparison to what mine was .