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Yes I read it - non-story the Daily Mail of the canal world. I'm also fed up with the CRT baiters in this forum. We're soon going to have a fight for the survival of the canal system and all some people want to do is pick holes whilst the whole edifice (the canals,not those running them) collapses. There you go, battle line drawn.

Live aboard and CC are not necessarily the same thing.

The Claytons boats and the tanker barges on the larger waterways (e.g. 'Exol Pride' now running lube oil from Hull to Rotherham) didn't/don't have tanks installed. The only boats with tanks, historically, that I can think of were five or six narrow boats of the Cowburn and Cowpar fleet which had cylindrical tanks, 4ft 6in in diameter. So why were these not prone to capsizing? An answer given to me was that the centre of gravity was lower with the heavier/denser acid compared to light weight fuel oil. In more modern times (May 1978) a cylindrical tank, approx 9ft in diameter and about 38 ft in length was fitted by me into the hold of Leeds & Liverpool short boat 'Irwell' as a trial for carriage of waste liquid from Esholt to Knostrop (Leeds) where it was either pumped off into any waiting tanker barge or up the pipeline into the works, a highly efficient operation. The tank arrangement had two drawbacks, however - the weight of the tank (5 tonnes) reduced the payload to 45 tonnes, and when returning light there was a tendency for the tank to catch the lowest bridge in Leeds if the pound was slightly high. It was also not too easy to see over the top when empty! Thus short boat 'Everton' (a more modern and better carrier) was converted into a tanker with an arrangement similar to the Claytons i.e. tight bulkheads each end of the hold and a centre bulkhead with a valve to allow for trimming when loading, and to discharge the forward area. Again an on board diesel pump was very efficient, a payload at 56 tonnes excellent and a wheelhouse with wheel steering provided a degree of comfort for the crew. I was assured that both vessels would be dangerously unstable without baffles but in fact that wasn't an issue at all. (I was also informed that it would be impossible to steer a short boat with a wheel and this turned out to be untrue as well - after all Sheffield size and West Country keels were being provided with wheel steering without issue.) Both boats occasionally went to Goole when there was a stoppage on the L&L canal. The traffic ended when the need to dispose of sludge from Esholt in this manner (to sea) ceased although the larger tankers carried on running from Knostrop and Long Sandall down to Goole until the 1990s when sea disposal was finally ended.

So much nicer without all that, ahem, 'street art'.

How can you tell? His expression looks rather blank to me.

Wow!!! Who'd have known that people have been living on canal boats since the Bronze Ages? 🤔

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Black Rose you only quoted half of what I said.and took the quote from my post out of context. The point I made was that some people kept offering (good) advice, but that that wasn't my question. Still, if you amused yourself........ . Thank you to everybody who responded. I do appreciate it. I think Canal World is an excellent resource, even though a minority do seem to get a bit silly. Again, thank you..:b

All now berthed at Droitwich..... been an 'interesting' trip through two storms and **** loads of rain.... but yet i still seem to have caught the sun??!! thanks for all the help from people! note to self - avoid lock flights in strong winds.... Saw your boat as we entered the Marina today... hope your trip went well after the windy start!

Didn't NBW have some other person (Allan ??????) who submitted a string of FOI requests, resulting in him being marked as a vexatious requester and CRT not needing to further communicate with him? It just seems like a fishing expedition, with no public interest value.

Gas water was also derived from the coke. After it left the ovens the coke was red hot and, in air, would start to burn. So the coke was quenched with water. Some water turned to steam, which, with some coke, might be fed back into the gas producers, but as the coke cooled, there was a lot of water contaminated with products that could be extracted and sold. A Gasworks wasted nothing. N

I believe it was often called "gas liquor" or just "liquor" but "gas water" is descriptive. The generation of towns gas gave as byproducts a mixed organic liquid, "coal tar" and a mixed aqueous liquid "gas liquor" which contained a lot of ammonia along with other soluble compounds. This was used to generate ammonium compounds such as ammonium sulphate for use as a fertiliser. It could easily have contained cyanides as these are another nitrogen based compound like ammonia.

I always considered the by-products of gas works was creosote, and the 'gas boats' transported it to places such as those storing wooden railway sleepers for impregnation as a preservative. Though I'm probably wrong.

Mine moves forward

Actually meeting the requirements listed does not seem to be an actual requirement.

Does it now work? Alec

The modern way of mounting engine and transmission in most narrowboats is horrid. Shoved right up the back as far as possible to give as much cabin space as possible, with no room for decent proper marine flexible universally jointed drive with thrust bearing to allow the engine to move at will and not be restrained by Poxy centaflex units and the like that don't do much.

not so sure about that, last two full time jobs I’ve had employers have readily accepted family address, an address no where near the county of work, the important one is the correct Bank details and address so you get paid on time, talk it over with your employer, tell them what you’re up to,

Trent 5: https://hnbc.org.uk/boats/trent-5

Sorry for reopening an old thread. I remember seeing this barge abaonded near Upton on Severn in about 1990. She was recovered from thar spot in 2022 and I'm in process of buying the hull.