john6767 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said: Must have been a lot of water heading down to the Staffs and Worcs as according to Birmingham live the locks down the Wolverhampton flight were 20 feet deep last night! https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/firemen-rescue-three-men-20ft-14737320 Crap local newspaper reporting I think! By 20ft down do then mean 3 locks down from the Wolverhampton level, or did they just make up a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1uk Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, john6767 said: Crap local newspaper reporting I think! By 20ft down do then mean 3 locks down from the Wolverhampton level, or did they just make up a number. It's actually a quote from the West Mids Fire spokesman, but don't let that stop you having a go at the journo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 23 hours ago, RLWP said: Not really. I can't see how the Birmingham level is down 6" because of a breach on the higher Wolverhampton level. More of an opinion piece Richard Its my blog, I mentioned the level being down on the OML came from someone on the OML, I was using it to illustrate that the suggested explanation of boat movements could possibly have a parallel on the OML. I considered it unlikely as did others and sadly we were shown to be correct in our surmising following the discovery of the breach. Glad to see the work is progressing at pace. Be interesting to see the extent of the damage and how long it will take to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, adam1uk said: It's actually a quote from the West Mids Fire spokesman, but don't let that stop you having a go at the journo. You might be right it’s hard to tell, but the newspaper still published it, perhaps if the fire service were not making sense they should have clarified what they meant, it does not change the fact the statement does not really mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) If you have not already seen on Twitter, the dams are in place both sides of the failed culvert. Edited June 3, 2018 by john6767 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, AMModels said: Its my blog, I mentioned the level being down on the OML came from someone on the OML, I was using it to illustrate that the suggested explanation of boat movements could possibly have a parallel on the OML. I considered it unlikely as did others and sadly we were shown to be correct in our surmising following the discovery of the breach. Glad to see the work is progressing at pace. Be interesting to see the extent of the damage and how long it will take to repair. Thanks for the photos Andy, keep taking them Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, RLWP said: Thanks for the photos Andy, keep taking them Richard Some very good friends are in the area and taking the pics for me, next update will be tomorrow now, photographer will try and get as close to the action as possible. The engineer I mention is very clued in on this sort of thing and his insights have been invaluable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) New pictures from CRT this morning, I think they have found the leak Edited June 4, 2018 by john6767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 13 hours ago, springy said: above taken at about 2:30 - northern side dam framework in progress, at 6:30 the gang were still working, the northern framework was complete and they had started on the southern dam - close to teeces bridge & much shorter span than the northern one. Don't know how late they will be working but I was told that engineers hope to inspect the culvert tomorrow so they've got a bit to do, it's warm there and I reckon they'll deserve a pint when they finish ! springy Told you Richard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, john6767 said: New pictures from CRT this morning, I think they have found the leak ... and an old tyre, an oil drum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dave_P said: Told you Richard! Yes, I'm clearly not up to speed on coffer dams That was quick Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) Always fascinates me when I see an empty stretch of canal to see exactly what we are boating over. Hope everyone who was grounded are now afloat again. Edited June 4, 2018 by reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 A few more photos on my blog here hoping to get some more later so it will be updated throughout the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springy Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 It's definitely coming up at the grove ... but there's a bit to go yet before we're all floating. springy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springy Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 A few pics from this evening - on site the depression resulting from the collapse can be seen, its a bit less obvious on the pics Usual debris Slight depression line between pallet bottom left and the single plank springy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 9 hours ago, springy said: A few pics from this evening - on site the depression resulting from the collapse can be seen Cheer up! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted June 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 crt guy just told me abt 4 weeks ..but the same guy told me it was the valve at chase water ..he also said as they got the iron man event this weekend at chase water and they dont want to turn the valve on ....funny old world hey .could being stuck on the bed of the canal for 5/6 weeks do any damage regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springy Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Being sat on the bottom is unlikely to damage a steel boat ( unless something small & hard finds a soft spot), what is more possible is that sitting there for a few weeks you will be more "stuck in the mud" and low well deck drains could possibly be caught as the level rises again - unlikely but possible. Wooden boat or wooden bottom - be ready with a pump ! - you might not need it and it things may even improve, but ... springy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, haza said: crt guy just told me abt 4 weeks ..but the same guy told me it was the valve at chase water ..he also said as they got the iron man event this weekend at chase water and they dont want to turn the valve on ....funny old world hey .could being stuck on the bed of the canal for 5/6 weeks do any damage regards I wondered if they were not able to use Chasewater to fill that side up given there isnow a stoppage restriction on Rushall locks. Hopefully they will be able to turn it on after the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 hours ago, haza said: crt guy just told me abt 4 weeks ..but the same guy told me it was the valve at chase water ..he also said as they got the iron man event this weekend at chase water and they dont want to turn the valve on ....funny old world hey .could being stuck on the bed of the canal for 5/6 weeks do any damage regards 4 weeks to fix the leak or 4 weeks to refill the canal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Not sure what the CRT guy is talking about but according to rangers/locals the Chasewater valves have been running since mid April and are still running now. CW is full according to those who have walked around it, easily up to the grassed areas and all boat ramps are usable. As springy has mentioned the level is rising to the section north of the dam and the only place water comes from to do that is Chasewater, I would suggest he is either pulling your leg or talking round his hat. Closing Rushall locks makes sense as it would take water out of the section that is already low, I would imagine they will reopen once the level is back to normal. Although theres no mention of any closure on CRT stoppages page. Edited June 5, 2018 by AMModels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 03/06/2018 at 18:41, Tim Lewis said: Picture taken at Norton Canes yesterday, a good 9 -12 inches down looks like two bricks down to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 This is the inflow from Chasewater was running Fri/Sat/Sun for sure, someone is going to pop over later and check its still running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, AMModels said: Not sure what the CRT guy is talking about but according to rangers/locals the Chasewater valves have been running since mid April and are still running now. CW is full according to those who have walked around it, easily up to the grassed areas and all boat ramps are usable. As springy has mentioned the level is rising to the section north of the dam and the only place water comes from to do that is Chasewater, I would suggest he is either pulling your leg or talking round his hat. Closing Rushall locks makes sense as it would take water out of the section that is already low, I would imagine they will reopen once the level is back to normal. Although theres no mention of any closure on CRT stoppages page. The stoppage notice for Rushall is here https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notice/13213/rushall-locks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 There was plenty of water feeding in at Bradeley at the weekend. There does not seem to be much difference in the drained canal except that the rubbish is lower down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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