Sir Nibble Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hey folks.Do you think there would be a market for an old style reversing lever and speedwheel set up with cables to replace morse control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Sort of - Wrigglefinger's boat Cobbett has a push/pull rod connected to a cable to operate the PRM gearbox, and a Tony Redshaw speedwheel mechanism for the tractor engine Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I guess you'd have to be pretty pretentious to want to retro fit one. Good market then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctor et emergo Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 It'll never catch on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete & Helen Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 No idea what one is. To quote many a person on here "picture please" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 No idea what one is. To quote many a person on here "picture please" well here's one I viewed for someone last week, however, I am not sure that the button switch wasn't a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 "Trolling valve." Could do with one of those in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hey folks.Do you think there would be a market for an old style reversing lever and speedwheel set up with cables to replace morse control? In a word... Yes, as it's one of the 101 things I plan to do to our tug style NB. Apart from the wheel and push-pull handle I haven't found much whilst surfing. Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 We are a "modern liveaboard in the general style of an old trad". The speedwheel and gear lever connect to rods that run along the back cabin roof, so the back cabin looks trad, but then discretely connect to cables that curve down to the JD3 giving a neat engine room where you can hang the washing without it getting sucked into chains and gears! ............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frahkn Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 My "new" boat has the original speed wheel and gear push/pull, with the cables just detached at the engine end and coiled up. The previous owner changed to a retro-fitted morse control instead but has not routed the new cables very well. I have thought of returning to the original controls but a) don't know how pratical this would be and I have never used a speedwheel. What do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 My "new" boat has the original speed wheel and gear push/pull, with the cables just detached at the engine end and coiled up. The previous owner changed to a retro-fitted morse control instead but has not routed the new cables very well. I have thought of returning to the original controls but a) don't know how pratical this would be and I have never used a speedwheel. What do others think? Speedwheel and Gear lever are a Much nicer way to drive a boat, do it. ....................Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctor et emergo Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Speedwheel and Gear lever are a Much nicer way to drive a boat, do it. ....................Dave. Whilst I don't disagree with you, one can't help but wonder, if that is true, why do other boat designs not use the speed wheel and gear lever set-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twbm Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Whilst I don't disagree with you, one can't help but wonder, if that is true, why do other boat designs not use the speed wheel and gear lever set-up? Stops people having a permanent bruise just below the left shoulder blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frahkn Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Stops people having a permanent bruise just below the left shoulder blade. Well I already have the bruise (the fragments of scalp don't seem enough to cushion the speedwheel!) The question is, what work would be involved in reconnecting the old controls and how easy are they for a novice (to speedwheels, not to boating) to use? Edited December 5, 2013 by frahkn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctor et emergo Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Stops people having a permanent bruise just below the left shoulder blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hey folks.Do you think there would be a market for an old style reversing lever and speedwheel set up with cables to replace morse control? I want one. Whether I would buy one is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twbm Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Well I already have the bruise (the fragments of scalp don't seem enough to cushion the speedwheel! The question is, what work would be involved in reconnecting the old controls and how easy are they for a novice (to speedwheels, not to boating) to use? There's some fairly intricate levers to be fitted on the throttle at the engine end, can't take pictures as the boats are miles away, the gear lever is less problematic but still need careful engineering. As regards use, pushing or pulling the gear lever in the direction you want to go is simple enough, but remembering which way to turn the wheel, particularly when everything's going horribly wrong, can be a challenge. It's easy enough - I treat ours like a tap: anticlockwise for more fuel, clockwise for less - but I still get it wrong. Finding neutral accurately can be an issue too - annoying when you look round to find the boat has quietly buggered off. Think I've just answered Luctor's question properly. Just proved the point - edited to get the fuel control turns the right way around.... Edited December 5, 2013 by twbm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Sort of - Wrigglefinger's boat Cobbett has a push/pull rod connected to a cable to operate the PRM gearbox, and a Tony Redshaw speedwheel mechanism for the tractor engine Richard Thanks for the tip on Tony Redshaw, visit to Braunston coming soon Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddingtonBear Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 He is not there any more, That might be doing you a favour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Speedwheel and Gear lever are a Much nicer way to drive a boat, do it. ....................Dave. Speed wheel and gear wheel is even better though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks for the tip on Tony Redshaw, visit to Braunston coming soon Cheers Bill I wouldn't go to Braunston, he's not there any more - now at Daventry. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tony-Redshaw-Vintage-Diesels/153747261344570 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Speed wheel and gear wheel is even better though! Speedwheel, oil rod, clutch rod, reversing rod better still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taslim Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Speedwheel, oil rod, clutch rod, reversing rod better still Cooo! Can I have a drive mister? Semi diesel I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 I wouldn't go to Braunston, he's not there any more - now at Daventry. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tony-Redshaw-Vintage-Diesels/153747261344570 Very many thanks ! Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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