Pike perch Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 When trying to increase speed my engine dies,is anyone able to advise what the problem could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cariad Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 the first thing I would check for is fuel starvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Brown Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 DETAILS please. My firs look would be fuel starvation due to blocked filters or pipes, or low fuel level or a bad attack of bio slime in the tank affecting everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Fuel starvation is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fizz Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Have you got anything wrapped around the prop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Impossible to diagnose from the information supplied but if it is in gear you are having the problems, it could be a fouled prop? Edited December 4, 2013 by junior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 First thing I would look at is whatever Tony Brooks has to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) He has nothing to say until he knows a lot more about it. Number 1 on the exceptionally scant info we are given is fuel starvation but it its a Lister with LH150 box it might be going into ahead & reverse at the same time (which I doubt) or it could be a fouled prop if it is doing it when it goes into gear. Engine make & model Gearbox make & model if poss. In gear or out any funny noises Previous history How much fuel in tank MEASURED - not guessed at. engine temperature and so on The we might be able to help. Edited December 4, 2013 by Tony Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 When trying to increase speed my engine dies,is anyone able to advise what the problem could be. you are turning the speedwheel the wrong way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 When trying to increase speed my engine dies,is anyone able to advise what the problem could be. I'd say something is probably wrong with it. MtB (Answering with a level of detail matching the question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) I'd say something is probably wrong with Ooh, I wish I had said that! Do you have a degree in Stating The Bleeding Obvious? Edited December 4, 2013 by Beaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 When trying to increase speed my engine dies,is anyone able to advise what the problem could be. Fuel starvation sounds likely; blocked filter, dodgy lift pump, sludge in tank etc. Fouled prop possible. More info needed, such as excessive smoke? If so what colour? Type of engine and box? Anything replaced/altered of late? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 The OP has only been a member for a few hours. It is probably best to wait and see what further information he provides before we all speculate? Note to OP (Pike perch):......... members are usually extremely helpful, but it is important to provide as much information as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 pike perch is otherwise known as a zander IIRC. MtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 pike perch is otherwise known as a zander IIRC. MtB or Sander lucioperca Very good eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pike perch Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Many apologies for the scant description....not only am I new to boating, but also to the internet and forums. While I appreciate the help/advice given so far by the members of this group, I'm also taken aback by the apparent childish sarcasm of others! That said, I've listed further information below and any advice would be greatly appreciated...but please no clever quips because they're rather off putting for newbies like me. * Engine is a Vetus M4.14 4 cyl Diesel * The problem occurs whilst in gear * It has a grinding and laboured sound, but when slowed down to a snails pace..it's fine. *We've only just purchased the boat, but the engine is 8 years old (if that's any help. * The temperature of the engine remains normal throughout. Hope that helps. Forgot to add....the engine has only done 750 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Many apologies for the scant description....not only am I new to boating, but also to the internet and forums. While I appreciate the help/advice given so far by the members of this group, I'm also taken aback by the apparent childish sarcasm of others! That said, I've listed further information below and any advice would be greatly appreciated...but please no clever quips because they're rather off putting for newbies like me. I'm afraid I can't help with the engine but if you're going to hang around the forum it's a good idea to get used to quips and sarcasm. Complaining about it often just brings more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pike perch Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Junior, thanks for the advice....I joined this forum hoping for help and advice, but if sarcasm and quips directed at newbies are the norm on here, I doubt I will be hanging around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Many apologies for the scant description....not only am I new to boating, but also to the internet and forums. While I appreciate the help/advice given so far by the members of this group, I'm also taken aback by the apparent childish sarcasm of others! That said, I've listed further information below and any advice would be greatly appreciated...but please no clever quips because they're rather off putting for newbies like me. * Engine is a Vetus M4.14 4 cyl Diesel * The problem occurs whilst in gear * It has a grinding and laboured sound, but when slowed down to a snails pace..it's fine. *We've only just purchased the boat, but the engine is 8 years old (if that's any help. * The temperature of the engine remains normal throughout. Hope that helps. Forgot to add....the engine has only done 750 hours. Is it Vetus stern gear (any chance of a photo?) A friends boat made a similar noise when a small piece of nylon rope had wound itself around the propshaft and into the cutlass bearing. A bit of a shot in the dark, but a possibility? Plenty of fresh oil in gearbox? ps ignore the sarcasm. Some good people on here, and between them they will help sort your problem. Edited December 5, 2013 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pike perch Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Catweasel, to tell you the truth...I haven't a clue what a stern gear is! but I could possibly get a scanned photo of the engine if that would help. Yes, there's plenty of oil in the gearbox and the engine has been regularly maintained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilllearning Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Catweasel, to tell you the truth...I haven't a clue what a stern gear is! but I could possibly get a scanned photo of the engine if that would help. Yes, there's plenty of oil in the gearbox and the engine has been regularly maintained. Hi , by stern gear he means the prop shaft and the bearing it sits in plus the propeller. Try opening the weed hatch and feeling round where the shaft meets the hull of the boat to feel anything that shouldn't be there. Try tp be patient, as Catweasel says, there are some very highly skilled people on the forum. PS if you don't know what should be on the shaft outside the boat, try looking online for photos of vetus stern gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 * The problem occurs whilst in gear * It has a grinding and laboured sound, but when slowed down to a snails pace..it's fine. Sounds like you may have something fairly big on the prop. Try a burst of reverse gear to see if you can throw it off. If that fails you will have to open the weedhatch and have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 If it only occurs in gear then the engine is probably ok. does the engine rev freely out of gear? I would start by checking that you have not got a load of wire around the prop, then grab the shaft and check for lots of play / bolts missing in couplings / seized python or aquadrive bearing if you have one. If there is no obvious problem from g/box to prop. and probably no problem from engine to gearbox then you have to suspect the gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul's Nulife4-2 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hi ya,& welcome,,Rise above the digs & sarcasm,,I did,& am thankful its not a bad place.but I know exactly what you mean. Has the boat ever dried out on a river,canal bed before,,ime thinking some grit,muck ect or even a deteriorating Cutless bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgiesburnin Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 CLEVER quips, I must have missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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