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Just now, matty40s said:

Seems to get delisted and relisted on a regular basis on the duck.

 

Ah right.

 

By different buyers/sellers or the same seller I wonder.

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On 12/02/2023 at 20:38, magnetman said:

Nice to see Archie doing well. I was talking to Michael Pinnock about it recently he said it was a bit nackered after being out the water down at the royal docks with nothing over the hold. He was offered it but left it.

 

A very nice boat that one. I like the short extension cabin it is very handy and doesn't spoil the boat.

Archimedes when Al & Trish Akehurst had it. Here paired with UCCs Great Britain going down Braunston locks. Al's comment was that GB would make a good work boat with the top cut off!

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I used to buy coal off them when they were around the southern GU in the early 00s With Archie and Ara.  Pleasant people. 

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They hauled the boats up because the site there at Thames Ditton is going to be used for water extraction. 

 

There was a modern motor narrow boat which was originally in steam and went down about 20 yars ago then there was a GU motor and butty the butty sunk and the motor was saved amd taken to Laleham. Also there was a nice old tug called Enterprise which sunk and was salvaged to Laleham .

 

The butty hasn't been down as long probably about ten yars I think. 

 

I tried to buy the modern motor before it sunk but the owner was a bit of a twit about so it went down. This was actually more like 30 yars ago as it was when I bought my first narrow boat in 1994. 

 

 

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It is interesting you mention that as when the butty was there with the Grand Union motor I seem to recall it was perhaps not a matching boat but I'm not sure about it. I think it could indeed be a modern copy.

 

The motor boat which they raised at the same time is definitely not old.

 

The Grand Union motor was taken to Laleham before it was allowed to sink.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Francis Herne said:

If this is "Bullfinch" as implied by one of the pictures in the Facebook ad, isn't it actually a (somewhat) modern replica?

 

It isn't a Grand Union if this is the hold

 

 

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1 hour ago, Francis Herne said:

If this is "Bullfinch" as implied by one of the pictures in the Facebook ad, isn't it actually a (somewhat) modern replica?

 

It isn't a Grand Union if this is the hold

 

 

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5 hours ago, Francis Herne said:

If this is "Bullfinch" as implied by one of the pictures in the Facebook ad, isn't it actually a (somewhat) modern replica?

The link I clicked on went to but as the forum is playing sill whatsist and I have missed loads of posts I dont know it thats right

1937 Ex working woolwich bullnose

£6,000
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3 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

The link I clicked on went to but as the forum is playing sill whatsist and I have missed loads of posts I dont know it thats right

1937 Ex working woolwich bullnose

£6,000

I know the ad says that, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong. One of the pics on the ad is of Bullfinch in better days, and the details visible in the other pictures match that while being wrong for a '30s boat.

 

I'm honestly a bit tempted by this - seems a good price and I could use the space. Not sure towing it with Lark would go well though!

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12 hours ago, Francis Herne said:

I know the ad says that, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong. One of the pics on the ad is of Bullfinch in better days, and the details visible in the other pictures match that while being wrong for a '30s boat.

 

I'm honestly a bit tempted by this - seems a good price and I could use the space. Not sure towing it with Lark would go well though!

 

It is interesting because the motor boat which was also raised is a vague copy of a Grand Union. Not a very good impression but more similarity than just a standard narrow boat. When I tried to buy it all those yars ago in the 90s the owner was going on about how it was an incredibly valuable replica. I don't think so but it is an interesting vessel. Apparently originally in steam but the steam plant was cleverly removed before the boat sunk.

 

Both of these boats are interesting and worth looking at I think. Neither of them are 1937 or made by Harland and Wolff.

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I don't know the answer but the story was there was some old git who owned several boats which were moored on piles outside the old waterworks just below Thames Ditton Marina. He was awkward to deal with and let several boats sink over the yars despite people trying to buy them. In total there were 3 narrow boats, a thames tug and a lighter barge. Of these 2 of the narrow boats sunk, the tug sunk and one of the narrow boats (Grand Union motor) was removed before sinking and is now at Laleham. The tug was later salvaged and removed to the same place at Laleham (4allmarine).

 

The area where the boats were is subject to redevelopment by Thames water as an extraction point for a treatment plant. The boats had been down for a long time and the moorings piles had been removed so effectively these things were obstructions and basically waste products. 

 

I would hazard a guess that the riparian ownership there is with Thames Water and that they just wanted everything cleared so it seems entirely probable that the person salvaging the craft was allowed to keep whatever he floated.

 

My theory could be wrong but suspect this is what happened.

 

Needs checking obviously. I think original owner is pushing up daises these days.

 

 

The subject of the Grand Union motor narrow boat did come up here some yars ago as somebody was concerned it was going to go down but I'm not sure how to find the thread. None of the boats were advertised for sale as far as I know until now but I know that people had been trying to buy them.

 

 

 

ETA here is the story from 2014.

 

 

Just to clarify the Pegasus did not sink. It was removed while afloat.

 

Both the salvaged boats are modern boats. I think they are actually quite nice boats but I don't know where the 1937 thing came from as it isn't correct.

 

 

Picture of Pegasus and the  butty before the butty went down and also some of when the boat looked immaculate previously.

 

https://hnbc.org.uk/boats/pegasus

 

 

The Pegasus is a Star class Composite Grand Union boat.

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Pegasus was acquired by Michael Pinnock and restored. It is now part of his fleet delivering fuel around the London area.

It won the HNBC's Hemelryk Award for the most improved iron/steel/composite boat of 2022.

https://hnbc.org.uk/awards

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i'm a bit slow these days ! He comes past me regularly with it :banghead: I didn't even notice it was the same boat. 

It might have one of my magnet boat hooks on it by now as I gave him some of them recently. 

 

 

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Would make fabulous live-aboard.
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We shall be very happy to consider any & all sensible offers .. the “right person” of utmost importance.
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