Edwin Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Hi As you may have seen in my other Thread I am a bit of a Steam nut, and was wondering if anyone on here has a Steam Narrow boat? Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Hi As you may have seen in my other Thread I am a bit of a Steam nut, and was wondering if anyone on here has a Steam Narrow boat? Cheers Dave There's a few about. President, based at the Black Country Museum is probably the best known. See http://nb-president.org.uk/ . David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sociable_hermit Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 DHutch is involved with a steam boat, and also runs this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Alton Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 There are a few steam powered narrowboats around including "whistle down the wind" which along with historic steam tug Kerne normally attend the steam weekend at the Leigh Arms, Acton Bridge nr Northwich. It's held on the first weekend in October & is a very sociable & informal event, usually attracting about 20 traction engines & steam rollers as well as a selection of historic narrowboats & wide boats. For a quick look at Emily Anne & Whistle down the wind see http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DS_wPw7DAWpY&v=S_wPw7DAWpY&gl=US Cheers, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fu Manchu Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 There aren't many of us, but there are plans for a rally of steam narrow boats at Swan Lane Wharf - half way between Hawkesbury Junction and the Coventry Canal Basin over the weekend of 15/16/17 June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykaskin Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Swallow: President: Emily Anne: Adamant: Laplander: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andywatson Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Forum member " tunneltug" is building this: http://www.tunneltug.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Forum member " tunneltug" is building this: http://www.tunneltug.co.uk/ ADAMANT is hidden away but still looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Was steam ever actually used on working narrow boats or did the technology leapfrog from horse straight to diesel? I suppose there must be a few examples of steam-powered working narrowboats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire~rose Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes Monarch was steam powered: Monarch's boiler removal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Was steam ever actually used on working narrow boats or did the technology leapfrog from horse straight to diesel? I suppose there must be a few examples of steam-powered working narrowboats? Indeed it was: President is a steam-powered former working boat. I'm no expert, but I believe that the era of steam-powered narrowboats was quite brief because the steam engine took up a lot of space which could otherwise have been used for cargo, so when suitable oil engines came along, most were converted from steam to diesel. I guess that would have been in the late 1920s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andywatson Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Was steam ever actually used on working narrow boats or did the technology leapfrog from horse straight to diesel? I suppose there must be a few examples of steam-powered working narrowboats? This site lists loads of 'em: http://www.steamershistorical.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcol Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Loved the videos I would luv a steam narrowboat, although you have to have a love affair with one I would think Imagine they take a lot of looking after don't they? Col Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_ Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 President and Kildare have just chuntered past at a fine old rate, steam whistle blowing to get all the boaters out and waving! We are at Tixall Wide for a couple of days - place associated with total peace and quiet, rippling water, water birds (o.k. maybe a bit windy and wavy sometimes!) - and him and me were shaken from our book reading and Mrs Swan-on-her-nest's head shot up as the whistle blasted through the calm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 The beauty of steam reciprocating engines in boats is that they have no need of a gearbox or clutches,they start on power and load from rest,the same as a railway steam loco,for they are external combustion engines as apposed to a diesel engine which are internal combustion.So maybe a reduction box but very rare i think. The prop shaft is coupled directly to the engines crankshaft and astern gear is selected by altering the valve events position to reverse the inlet of steam and to exhaust it. The draw back was as someone said,the extra space required for boiler and coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fu Manchu Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I decided that it would be an interesting idea to have a steam engine; but didn't fancy the idea of having to lift bags of coal around. And the other half didn't like the idea of a boat full of coal dust. So the compromise was a steam engine, but with an oil-fired boiler. This has the secondary advantage that it is much easier to control: if the pressure builds up too much when waiting for a lock, you can just switch off the burner. The big disadvantage is that a steam engine is much less efficient than a diesel engine. The latter can be about 50% efficient, while a steam engine is typically less than 10%, so I prefer not to think about how much fuel we burn per hour (and today's price!) But it's great fun playing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggers Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Hasty (aka Tasty) is well worth a nose, possibly one of the best looking new builds ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flocal Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Surely someone must of met Steamboat Tony?????????????? You wont find a nicer bloke, character on the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calamity507 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 President and kildare just went past us at Dodford.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWoolcock Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Greetings from Fellows Morton & Clayton's ex-steamer MARQUIS, built 1898. Go onto Richard Thomas's excellent website www.steamershistorical.co.uk and so much will be revealed about the number of steamers that were about. Incidently, of the iron built FMC steamers, built by FMC at Saltley, I think you will find almost every single one is accounted for and still afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 The draw back was as someone said,the extra space required for boiler and coal. And the manpower needed to run one, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Indeed it was: President is a steam-powered former working boat. I'm no expert, but I believe that the era of steam-powered narrowboats was quite brief because the steam engine took up a lot of space which could otherwise have been used for cargo, so when suitable oil engines came along, most were converted from steam to diesel. I guess that would have been in the late 1920s. The first Fellows, Morton (semi-) diesel boats were built circa 1913, I think. They offered such a huge advantage over steam that I don't suppose the steam Narrow Boats lasted for long after that. On the other hand steam did continue, I think, until the 1950s in a few Leeds & Liverpool boats where there was less of a space premium. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggers Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I know the whereabouts of a wooden josher steamboat Of course I doubt itll still float... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWoolcock Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Hi Dawn. Very interesting and something I missed. Which boat and where? James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I know the whereabouts of a wooden josher steamboat Of course I doubt itll still float... Just needs a little bit of TLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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