Boating accident

[ditchcrawler]

2 hours ago, Jerra said:

Playing devil's advocate couldn't the hire boat's insurers blame a boat tied up where people turn?

Note the last 4 words of my posting 

[MtB]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Then - a boat moors in a narrow section / winding hole etc and the mobile boat cannot get past without hitting it.

 

I had an example where a 'coal boat' had tied up very very loosely with blue string to some trees on the offside ( the owner was a member here) and he was across the canal at an angle of about 45 degrees - the only was I could get passed was to bump him out of the way.

 

Whose fault if his paint was damaged ?

 

Yours obviously, for deliberately driving into a stationary boat. 

 

 

[Jerra]

53 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said:

It’s clearly the boat running into you at fault as they had an insufficient array of LED lights. 😀
 

It seems like it’s similar to a rear shunt. It’s rarely if ever the fault of the car driver whose rear of the car has been stoved in. 
 

I expect there are exceptions but not often 

So doing idiotic things like mooring across the canal or doing an emergency stop in front of a vehicle on clear road are all the fault of somebody else!

 

No wonder there are so many "crash for cash" scams going on.

[nb Innisfree]

9 hours ago, matty40s said:

This is why your boat pole should always be accessible, as you pass, knock them off one by one.

Canal Jousting 🙂

[LadyG]

11 hours ago, Jerra said:

Just my own personal position, but when the first boat had turned round there I would have moved.

 

I certainly wouldn't have been there when the third boat tried.

No, the two boats were moored in the marina, and doing manoeuvring, together, there was plenty of room for them to turn roond together, which was what they seemed to be doing, i was moored in the narrower part, not in the wide part where boats should  wind.

 

Edited September 12, 2024 by LadyG

[Mike Todd]

2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

I quote her directly :

 

 

Hi, im opposite the Baltimore marina .

The water has drained for about eight hours.

Could anyone downstream ie Lock 17 and L16, , , also L18 snd L19 please go out  and check paddles are closed.

CRT think there will be someone around checking water levels when they clock on.

Looking at google, Baltimore does not have an entrance. 

[Alan de Enfield]

42 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:

Looking at google, Baltimore does not have an entrance. 

 

So, it has no access to the canal - is it a land locked pond then ?

[matty40s]

12 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

So, it has no access to the canal - is it a land locked pond then ?

Unless you have blocked me Alan, I posted this earlier...

 

 

It's not a pdf, so dont worry

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[Stroudwater1]

2 hours ago, Jerra said:

So doing idiotic things like mooring across the canal or doing an emergency stop in front of a vehicle on clear road are all the fault of somebody else!

 

No wonder there are so many "crash for cash" scams going on.

That’s a very well known scam of an emergency stop so someone goes into the back of a scammer. The scammer then suffers terrible whiplash. 550,000 whiplash claims in 2019/20 year. Many genuine but that’s just under 1% of the population annually with a claim. Seems pretty high! 
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/over-1-billion-savings-for-motorists-as-whiplash-reforms-come-into-force

 

[matty40s]

I went through this a few years ago, on a motorway roundabout joining the motorway,  2 cars in front, one slammed the brakes on and swerved back onto the roundabout, the other slammed on the brakes in front of me.

I was already breaking,  braked more and swerved, clipped the bumper whilst stopping.

Told them to pull to hard shoulder on slip way rather than stay in road. Took photos immediately,  then spoke to driver, 3 others got out of car. 

Almost no damage to front of my Skoda, and no visible damage to rear of their car. Exchanged details and when trying to contact with my insurance details got zero response, number not recognised...tried lots of times and logged them all.

Direct Line got in touch saying they had a claim against me, would like to speak to me.

I agreed to a meeting, which was pretty much a police evidence statement taking occasion.

Told them everything as it happened, gave the footage, photos, (my car and theirs), and the log of communication attempts without success.

Although my no claims was affected on renewal, this was completely re- instated and money refunded once DirectLine had finished their enquiry, and taken about 21 West Midland and Wolverhampton scammers to court with jail terms given for about £30m fraudulent claims

Not only the drivers, but there were at least 4 doctors, 2 pharmacies, 3 lawyers and other reputable people involved in the fraudulent claims.

 

Sorry Nigel Farage, I have ommited to mention any Labour voters in this post.

[Alan de Enfield]

39 minutes ago, matty40s said:

I went through this a few years ago, on a motorway roundabout joining the motorway,  2 cars in front, one slammed the brakes on and swerved back onto the roundabout, the other slammed on the brakes in front of me.

 

 

A few years ago, the one in our area was :

 

You are stopped at a T-Junction, car approaching indicates to turn into T-Junction, so 'flashes' to let you out, you pull out they stop indicating, speed up and T-Bone you.

 

There were 100s of incidents around the county apparently (according to the local papers) all done by 'Eastern Europeans'.

[matty40s]

Apparently the latest twist on this means that scooters are being used widely by the scammers in large towns and cities.

As soon as accident happens , some bystander takes lots of photos.

You obviously swap details as you do,( only give insurance details , not home address!!)

Repair garages and doctors then start plaguing you to pay extortionate repair and medical bills.

[Rob-M]

19 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Apparently the latest twist on this means that scooters are being used widely by the scammers in large towns and cities.

As soon as accident happens , some bystander takes lots of photos.

You obviously swap details as you do,( only give insurance details , not home address!!)

Repair garages and doctors then start plaguing you to pay extortionate repair and medical bills.

Sky news showed some footage recently, the moped rider rode past a stationary car, pulled in front of the car and jumped off the scooter letting it crash to the floor and then he dived backwards on to the car bonnet.  Fortunately for the driver it was all captured on their dash cam.

Edited September 13, 2024 by Rob-M

[ditchcrawler]

4 hours ago, Rob-M said:

Sky news showed some footage recently, the moped rider rode past a stationary car, pulled in front of the car and jumped off the scooter letting it crash to the floor and then he dived backwards on to the car bonnet.  Fortunately for the driver it was all captured on their dash cam.

Several like that on FB and youtube