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We have seen a boat only 2 years old.

Looks to be in GC.

Most people seem to recommend having a survey on a used boat, which makes sense, especially as we will be new to it & without experience.

But, after only 2 years & the fit out by a normal company, i.e. not a owner done job, would it still be needed to pay for out of the water survey on such a young boat?

whats the general opinion.

Thanks in advance,

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I would, even though I have been around boats for all 60 years of my life.

 

Anything can happen in 2 years, or it might have been a pup from the day it was first bought, ( why are they selling after only 2 years?).

 

If it tells you all is good, with nothing to be concerned about, or points out a few minor things, then it confirms your thoughts and hopes. If it finds something seriously wrong, it was worth every penny.

 

The former is what everyone hopes for when they pay for a survey, so being only 2 years old is not really a good reason.

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5 minutes ago, Aprilia said:

We have seen a boat only 2 years old.

Looks to be in GC.

Most people seem to recommend having a survey on a used boat, which makes sense, especially as we will be new to it & without experience.

But, after only 2 years & the fit out by a normal company, i.e. not a owner done job, would it still be needed to pay for out of the water survey on such a young boat?

whats the general opinion.

Thanks in advance,

 

It's not obligatory, but it's your money ...

 

I have seen a four year old boat from a well regarded builder that had a hull like a colander due to galvanic corrosion.  It all depends on what's happened to the boat since launch.

 

We have a member on here whose boat went from perfectly sound to nearly sinking in 18 months.

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Sage words from m'learned friends above.

In a nutshell:

- A survey costs quite a lot of money.

- But it could save you much more money.

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Two years old, never been reblacked  ,just the builders single fast coat from new.  Spent its entire life on a land line in a marina  touching steel pontoon, without a GI fitted, could be pitted to hell and back on one side.

Batteries knackered because they have never been fully charged.

Engine never serviced, left ticking over for days, not worked hard enough.

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Thanks everyone, I never thought of it in those ways. 

I love to have other opinions to my own, helps thought processes.

Thanks again.

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In my experience the surveyor will usually find "something" to lever the price down that at least equates to his fee.

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I bought my 2 year old boat without surveying it, I found no issues on it when it was lifted to stretch it 6 months later, the few faults found on the boat were handled under warranty on those items. 

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10 minutes ago, peterboat said:

I bought my 2 year old boat without surveying it, I found no issues on it when it was lifted to stretch it 6 months later, 

So you did find an issue: it was shorter than you'd thought.

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5 minutes ago, Athy said:

So you did find an issue: it was shorter than you'd thought.

And the engine was only a Barrus Shire 40hp not the 65hp he thought he bought😂

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6 minutes ago, Athy said:

So you did find an issue: it was shorter than you'd thought.

Ha ha no I bought it to stretch which is why I knocked the price down from 76k to 48.5k!

Just now, PD1964 said:

And the engine was only a Barrus Shire 40hp not the 65hp he thought he bought😂

50 get your facts right! All the papers said 65 hp and their is no visual difference in them! Still I sold it as a 50 hp and got 2.5k for it, the new owner is well pleased in France with it

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3 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Ha ha no I bought it to stretch which is why I knocked the price down from 76k to 48.5k!

50 get your facts right! All the papers said 65 hp and their is no visual difference in them! Still I sold it as a 50 hp and got 2.5k for it, the new owner is well pleased in France with it

😂 just Stay safe in Tier 3 lockdown👍

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32 minutes ago, PD1964 said:

😂 just Stay safe in Tier 3 lockdown👍

I  am in tier 2 at the moment 😊

You have raised an interesting point though about the engine, all the papers were for a 65hp engine from Barrus Shire, Barrus confirmed that's what they had supplied so would the surveyor have found the difference? As its very difficult and down to a letter on the plate? And what happened to the 65hp engine? Was it wrongly supplied swopped by the boat fitter or swopped by the owner before the boat was repossessed? Lots of questions but not many answers 

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12 minutes ago, peterboat said:

I  am in tier 2 at the moment 😊

You still live in Rotherham though and as you know Sheffield, Doncaster and Rotherham went to Tier 3 Lockdown as of 00:01hrs today, for at least 28 days. So keep safe👍

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2 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said:

Two years old, never been reblacked  ,just the builders single fast coat from new.  Spent its entire life on a land line in a marina  touching steel pontoon, without a GI fitted, could be pitted to hell and back on one side.

Batteries knackered because they have never been fully charged.

Engine never serviced, left ticking over for days, not worked hard enough.

Interesting....Do you know the boat or are these pure assumptions?

I would imagine there are many such boats under 4 years old and not been out the water since new, all with happy owners no doubt.

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5 minutes ago, PD1964 said:

 

Unless your not living in Rotherham now, you might find that Sheffield, Doncaster and Rotherham went to Tier 3 Lockdown as of 00:01hrs today, for at least 28 days.

Chesterfield mate in a bubble with Jayne 

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 Just look after yourselves as will more then likely be in Chesterfield soon.👍

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9 minutes ago, PD1964 said:

 Just look after yourselves as will more then likely be in Chesterfield soon.👍

You to, Chesterfield has only just gone tier 2 for some reason that hasn't really been explained. 

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It’s an interesting conundrum .
In the horseless carriage market there are heap of junk unreliable Range Rover type cars on the market from private sellers, at more than lots of boats cost

People don’t get them surveyed, and even if ok take a hit of depreciation in a year that is more than than the annual national wage.

 

If you are happy to be wrong  and take responsibility for being wrong take a risk, but don’t like some do complain about it later.

I bought my first boat in 1984 survey free, 2 years old. Took a young mans gamble.

It was fine.

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4 hours ago, Aprilia said:

We have seen a boat only 2 years old.

Looks to be in GC.

Most people seem to recommend having a survey on a used boat, which makes sense, especially as we will be new to it & without experience.

But, after only 2 years & the fit out by a normal company, i.e. not a owner done job, would it still be needed to pay for out of the water survey on such a young boat?

whats the general opinion.

Thanks in advance,

There is a member on the forum whose boat had an excellent surevey report, within 18 months it was on the verge of sinking as one side of the hull had eroded away to 0.00001mm thickness (I exagerate slightly) - but it was SERIOUSLY thin)

 

If you do a search, you may find the story.

The posts are by @WotEver

 

 

Until you know more than surveyors (when you can do your own survey) have a survey - even on a brand new 1 day old boat that has been built for you. They will find all sorst of problems that you may get the seller to rectify.

 

Do a search for MIC - it has neen known to eat thru' 11mm of steel in 1 year.

 

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Get a survey! A friend of mine saw a new boat whose fitting out had only been completed 2 weeks before by a newly-retired professional carpenter. It looked beautiful inside, and the surveyor confirmed that the hull was 100% perfect but found that the wood had all been attached directly to the cabin sides with neither battening nor insulation so it was already going rotten at the end where he had started. Needless to say they didn't buy it but somebody else did so, without a survey; a year later I saw it in another boatyard stripped right back to bare metal inside for a complete refit.

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