Ray T Posted October 24, 2020 Report Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) As many may be aware that when President goes out the crew wear clothing appropriate to the occasion, part being red or blue spotted neckerchiefs. Whilst shopping this morning I found the ideal Covid accessory. Edited October 24, 2020 by Ray T
ditchcrawler Posted October 24, 2020 Report Posted October 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ray T said: As many may be aware that when President goes out the crew wear clothing appropriate to the occasion, part being red or blue spotted neckerchiefs. Whilst shopping this morning I found the ideal Covid accessory. It will probably help a bit stopping some of the crap he is about to breath going down his lungs as well
David Mack Posted October 24, 2020 Report Posted October 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, Ray T said: As many may be aware that when President goes out the crew wear clothing appropriate to the occasion, part being red or blue spotted neckerchiefs. Except it isn't really appropriate. It's not what the steamer crews wore back in the day.
Ray T Posted October 24, 2020 Author Report Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) On 24/10/2020 at 12:53, David Mack said: Except it isn't really appropriate. It's not what the steamer crews wore back in the day. Yes I am well aware that President's crew's attire are not historically correct, if you note I said "appropriate to the occasion" - not necessarily historically accurate. I believe President's crew are asked by the BCLM to don the attire they do. The original post was meant to have a degree of humour. Edited October 25, 2020 by Ray T 2
magnetman Posted October 24, 2020 Report Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) I don't think a boatman would fend off the butty with his foot. 4 hours ago, Ray T said: Looks like the cast of the Rappers Delight ! Edited October 24, 2020 by magnetman
TheBiscuits Posted October 24, 2020 Report Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, magnetman said: I don't think a boatman would fend off the butty with his foot. He's adjusting the tow angle with his foot, not trying to stop it. It's also running unladen, so not quite as bad as it looks. I do agree that the spotted neckerchief serves much the same purpose as a Blackberry mobile device used to though - it warns everyone else about the sort of person they are dealing with! 11 hours ago, Ray T said: I believe President's crew are asked by the BCLM to don the attire they do. Why on earth would the BCLM do that? I'm not disagreeing with your statement, just astounded by it. Edited October 24, 2020 by TheBiscuits spellink
Ray T Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: He's adjusting the tow angle with his foot, not trying to stop it. It's also running unladen, so not quite as bad as it looks. I do agree that the spotted neckerchief serves much the same purpose as a Blackberry mobile device used to though - it warns everyone else about the sort of person they are dealing with! Why on earth would the BCLM do that? I'm not disagreeing with your statement, just astounded by it. With regard to clothing I think it is to present a “Corporate” image rather than the crew wearing high vis or other attire which may be considered out of keeping.
Mac of Cygnet Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 22 hours ago, Ray T said: Yes I am well aware that President's crew's attire are not historically correct, if you note I said "appropriate to the occasion" - not necessarily historically accurate. I believe President's crew are asked by the BCLM to don the attire they do. What a fascinating picture. I've noticed it before in photos from the era, but was only doing up the top button of a jacket or waistcoat some sort of fashion? Or was being 'all buttoned up' more formal? And the chap on the right looks as if he's about to break out into some sort of Tyrolean dance.
Ray T Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mac of Cygnet said: What a fascinating picture. I've noticed it before in photos from the era, but was only doing up the top button of a jacket or waistcoat some sort of fashion? Or was being 'all buttoned up' more formal? And the chap on the right looks as if he's about to break out into some sort of Tyrolean dance. I think it was to allow freedom of movement but still keep the clothing from flapping around. Steam loco crews adopted the same fashion. L to R Fireman Tommy Bray, Driver Joe Duddington and Inspector Sid Jenkins. The others are the unnamed guard and a couple of the Westinghouse men. Edited October 25, 2020 by Ray T 1
Dav and Pen Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 Don’t recall seeing boatmen wearing Breton caps , traditionally more often a trilby style from the Atherstone hat factory or a flat cap. Mr Bray called his a clowboy hat. interesting that the fireman was also a Bray .
Derek R. Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Ray T said: I think it was to allow freedom of movement but still keep the clothing from flapping around. Steam loco crews adopted the same fashion. I think that is correct. A practice amongst working men rather than anything associated with fashion. Lovely picture. Might have been taken after the 126mph run.
Ray T Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Posted October 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Derek R. said: I think that is correct. A practice amongst working men rather than anything associated with fashion. Lovely picture. Might have been taken after the 126mph run. Yes.
max's son Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 Nice Waistcoat and is he wearing a white neckachief?
Ray T Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, max's son said: Nice Waistcoat and is he wearing a white neckachief? Good 'ole Arthur at Sutton Stop. William Humpris 1930's at a best guess. Note scarf and top buttoned waistcoat
Dav and Pen Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, max's son said: Nice Waistcoat and is he wearing a white neckachief? Nice photo and change to see one of him not in an overcoat
Dav and Pen Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 Ernie and Arthur going on a trip. Arthur seems to have a new hat and Ernie his normal wooly one. He once told me he didn’t like people who dressed up and pretended to be boatmen. 1
Ray T Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Collar and tie for Tom Sibley. I've always wondered if Benny from Crossroads was modeled on Ernie Kendall? Edited October 26, 2020 by Ray T
Graham_Robinson Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 On 25/10/2020 at 19:49, Ray T said: Collar and tie for Tom Sibley. Is this a BW image? I have a BW postcard with the two boats in the background, one of which is Star.................................
Ray T Posted September 21, 2021 Author Report Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) @Graham_RobinsonGraham I think it may be from the Jim Payler collection. Several of Jim's photo's graced the waiting room walls of Blisworth Surgery under the title of "The Tony Hillier Collection." Pictures included in Tony Hillier's Collection (blisworth.org.uk) Tony Hillier's Picture Collection (blisworth.org.uk) The attached picture of Selina Sibley? looks as if it was taken at the same time. Edited September 21, 2021 by Ray T
Graham_Robinson Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 Thanks Ray. My interest actually lies with the two boats breasted up in the distance, one of which is Star, the other unknown.............
Ray T Posted September 21, 2021 Author Report Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) @Graham_Robinson Graham, what was Star's "Water" name? If I am correct Star had a cut down bow to improve visibility. Water Rambler? A Jim Payler photograph. One of these? Edited September 21, 2021 by Ray T
Graham_Robinson Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) Rambler...............................Black and white image............. Top bends now................properly........................reinstated.................................. Edited September 21, 2021 by Graham_Robinson 1
David Mack Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Graham_Robinson said: Thanks Ray. My interest actually lies with the two boats breasted up in the distance, one of which is Star, the other unknown............. ... but presumably a converted butty, judging by the cabin tumblehome and the level attitude.
Graham_Robinson Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Bit of a mystery that. I think it may well be Water Sprite/Pisces and a converted butty......................Rambler and Sprite are the only 'tripping' boats to carry a white livery AFAIK....................................... Edited September 22, 2021 by Graham_Robinson
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