Ray T 1186 Report post #1 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) As many may be aware that when President goes out the crew wear clothing appropriate to the occasion, part being red or blue spotted neckerchiefs. Whilst shopping this morning I found the ideal Covid accessory. Edited October 24, 2020 by Ray T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ditchcrawler 2051 Report post #2 Posted October 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ray T said: As many may be aware that when President goes out the crew wear clothing appropriate to the occasion, part being red or blue spotted neckerchiefs. Whilst shopping this morning I found the ideal Covid accessory. It will probably help a bit stopping some of the crap he is about to breath going down his lungs as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Mack 1581 Report post #3 Posted October 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, Ray T said: As many may be aware that when President goes out the crew wear clothing appropriate to the occasion, part being red or blue spotted neckerchiefs. Except it isn't really appropriate. It's not what the steamer crews wore back in the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray T 1186 Report post #4 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) On 24/10/2020 at 12:53, David Mack said: Except it isn't really appropriate. It's not what the steamer crews wore back in the day. Yes I am well aware that President's crew's attire are not historically correct, if you note I said "appropriate to the occasion" - not necessarily historically accurate. I believe President's crew are asked by the BCLM to don the attire they do. The original post was meant to have a degree of humour. Edited October 25, 2020 by Ray T 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnetman 464 Report post #5 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) I don't think a boatman would fend off the butty with his foot. 4 hours ago, Ray T said: Looks like the cast of the Rappers Delight ! Edited October 24, 2020 by magnetman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBiscuits 3775 Report post #6 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, magnetman said: I don't think a boatman would fend off the butty with his foot. He's adjusting the tow angle with his foot, not trying to stop it. It's also running unladen, so not quite as bad as it looks. I do agree that the spotted neckerchief serves much the same purpose as a Blackberry mobile device used to though - it warns everyone else about the sort of person they are dealing with! 11 hours ago, Ray T said: I believe President's crew are asked by the BCLM to don the attire they do. Why on earth would the BCLM do that? I'm not disagreeing with your statement, just astounded by it. Edited October 24, 2020 by TheBiscuits spellink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray T 1186 Report post #7 Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: He's adjusting the tow angle with his foot, not trying to stop it. It's also running unladen, so not quite as bad as it looks. I do agree that the spotted neckerchief serves much the same purpose as a Blackberry mobile device used to though - it warns everyone else about the sort of person they are dealing with! Why on earth would the BCLM do that? I'm not disagreeing with your statement, just astounded by it. With regard to clothing I think it is to present a “Corporate” image rather than the crew wearing high vis or other attire which may be considered out of keeping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac of Cygnet 1000 Report post #8 Posted October 25, 2020 22 hours ago, Ray T said: Yes I am well aware that President's crew's attire are not historically correct, if you note I said "appropriate to the occasion" - not necessarily historically accurate. I believe President's crew are asked by the BCLM to don the attire they do. What a fascinating picture. I've noticed it before in photos from the era, but was only doing up the top button of a jacket or waistcoat some sort of fashion? Or was being 'all buttoned up' more formal? And the chap on the right looks as if he's about to break out into some sort of Tyrolean dance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray T 1186 Report post #9 Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mac of Cygnet said: What a fascinating picture. I've noticed it before in photos from the era, but was only doing up the top button of a jacket or waistcoat some sort of fashion? Or was being 'all buttoned up' more formal? And the chap on the right looks as if he's about to break out into some sort of Tyrolean dance. I think it was to allow freedom of movement but still keep the clothing from flapping around. Steam loco crews adopted the same fashion. L to R Fireman Tommy Bray, Driver Joe Duddington and Inspector Sid Jenkins. The others are the unnamed guard and a couple of the Westinghouse men. Edited October 25, 2020 by Ray T 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dav and Pen 352 Report post #10 Posted October 25, 2020 Don’t recall seeing boatmen wearing Breton caps , traditionally more often a trilby style from the Atherstone hat factory or a flat cap. Mr Bray called his a clowboy hat. interesting that the fireman was also a Bray . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek R. 213 Report post #11 Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Ray T said: I think it was to allow freedom of movement but still keep the clothing from flapping around. Steam loco crews adopted the same fashion. I think that is correct. A practice amongst working men rather than anything associated with fashion. Lovely picture. Might have been taken after the 126mph run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray T 1186 Report post #12 Posted October 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Derek R. said: I think that is correct. A practice amongst working men rather than anything associated with fashion. Lovely picture. Might have been taken after the 126mph run. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max's son 52 Report post #13 Posted October 25, 2020 Nice Waistcoat and is he wearing a white neckachief? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray T 1186 Report post #14 Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, max's son said: Nice Waistcoat and is he wearing a white neckachief? Good 'ole Arthur at Sutton Stop. William Humpris 1930's at a best guess. Note scarf and top buttoned waistcoat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dav and Pen 352 Report post #15 Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, max's son said: Nice Waistcoat and is he wearing a white neckachief? Nice photo and change to see one of him not in an overcoat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dav and Pen 352 Report post #16 Posted October 25, 2020 Ernie and Arthur going on a trip. Arthur seems to have a new hat and Ernie his normal wooly one. He once told me he didn’t like people who dressed up and pretended to be boatmen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray T 1186 Report post #17 Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Collar and tie for Tom Sibley. I've always wondered if Benny from Crossroads was modeled on Ernie Kendall? Edited October 26, 2020 by Ray T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites