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14 minutes ago, Goliath said:

Well I never!
Just googled it and they do exist 😃

I phoned around for one and no one had one either single or in a kit. And a local engineer place I’m sure said they don’t make them. 
So I went for a kit with 3/16” and it fitted perfect.


I’m always building a list of individual tools and sockets to buy. Sometimes there’s no point buying a whole set when you’ll only need one or two sizes. 

 

Each new job seems to introduce another tool of some sort. Even if it’s just a shorter spanner to get in somewhere or a longer one for better leverage. 



As an aside:

Had to buy a new wire strimmer/crimper/cutter thing the other week. Lost the other one. 
- Now that is a handy bit of kit for doing simple electrics, such as 12v wire terminals, fitting 12v sockets and the like. I’d recommend one as part of a basic tool box. 


 

 

Its very difficult, especially when you live in such a small place. Its often cheaper to get a selection of 100 copper washers than 5 of the size that you need, and its hard to throw brand new stuff away. I had to get a whole set of 5 sided Allen keys and I'm only ever going to use one of them. Could we turn the rest into some sort of art 🙂?

 

There's a good tool stall in Todmorden Thursday market so I try to get unusual stuff there, but he don't have 5 sided Allen keys. Did get some funny size spanners though.

 

.................Dave

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15 hours ago, system 4-50 said:

More seriously, for Beta 43 et al, metric: I use 6,8, 2x10, 12, 2x13,14,15,2x17, 18, and some bigger ones than I have forgotten the size of.

Socket sets bits: One of the most useful fits the socket set part of a belt that grips the oil filter and makes getting the filter off easy (with a large sliding T bar).

Also 2 gas bottle spanners (left handed).

 

My Beta 43 is all metric but the PRM gearbox has an imperial size filler hole/dipstick and drainplug. I don't know off-hand what size it is, but it's the only imperial ring spanner in my toolbox. I also have an oil filter getter-offer and a small nut-rounder (which I have never used).

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1 hour ago, Machpoint005 said:

My Beta 43 is all metric but the PRM gearbox has an imperial size filler hole/dipstick and drainplug

On all my PRM I have used 18mm on the filler/dipstick,  unless of course they were 3/8 Wworth which is only 1thou larger or 11/16AF which is 20thou smaller. In any case 18mm fits well enough provided it hasn't been done up by a gorilla. ;)

 

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12 minutes ago, Loddon said:

On all my PRM I have used 18mm on the filler/dipstick,  unless of course they were 3/8 Wworth which is only 1thou larger or 11/16AF which is 20thou smaller. In any case 18mm fits well enough provided it hasn't been done up by a gorilla. ;)

 

They are 3/8" Whit on fill and drain. They must have made too many long ago, still using them up. Wouldn't be brass if they made them today.

Reminds me of an old toolroom guy who told me that they had never made any 1/4" clevis pins since WWII, they made so many that they will possibly never need to make more ever as demand falls.

TD'

Edited by Tracy D'arth

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On 22/07/2020 at 19:49, dmr said:

Our base engine is the John Deere/Beta JD3. The engine is made in France but to an American design so its nuts and bolts are imperial. All the marinising parts put on by Beta are metric. The fuel tank fittings on the boat are 5/16 but those on the engine are 8mm. The gearbox is a PRM and I believe its based on an earlier imperial design. PRM say its updated over the years to be metric, but think there just might be a bit of imperial left.

and the injection pump is Stanadyne, the bolts holding that together use a Torx style head but with FIVE rather than 6 points.

 

Portholes etc fitted with metric bolts but the larger hull openings are (of course) BSP threads.

I have both metric and imperial spanners but  keep two adjustables next to the engine and mostly just use these.

 

.................Dave

 

I know some people will steal almost anything, but nicking a point off a Torx bolt really takes the biscuit... 😁😂

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6 minutes ago, cuthound said:

 

I know some people will steal almost anything, but nicking a point off a Torx bolt really takes the biscuit... 😁😂

 

Oops, busted! :D

 

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On 22/07/2020 at 19:08, Mad Harold said:

To be sure you need two adjustable spanners.

One imperial,and one metric.😆

and one needs to be left handed and the other right.... :)

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49 minutes ago, robtheplod said:

and one needs to be left handed and the other right.... :)

But they are handed ............................................................ depending which way up you hold them :)

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My favourite adjusted spanner, only needed for one job as I couldnt get a normal spanner in there.

 

 

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On 22/07/2020 at 23:33, dmr said:

(snip) the real bugger is my injection pump, they look like allen screws but have 5 sides instead of 6.

 

 

............Dave

Are you sure these aren't the ones that hold the actual pumps in place? Carefully designed to be only touched by someone who knows exactly what they're doing. Came across similar on a Perkins, and if everything isn't marked, it's just about impossible to get it back together again properly, without recourse to specialist equipment. 

(Don't ask, although in my defence it wasn't me that took it apart :glare: )

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3 hours ago, Iain_S said:

Are you sure these aren't the ones that hold the actual pumps in place? Carefully designed to be only touched by someone who knows exactly what they're doing. Came across similar on a Perkins, and if everything isn't marked, it's just about impossible to get it back together again properly, without recourse to specialist equipment. 

(Don't ask, although in my defence it wasn't me that took it apart :glare: )

The 5 sided allen/splines hold the top cover on the pump, the pump is bolted to the block with pretty standard 13mm nuts on studs, or at least the imperial equivalent of 13mm. They then implemented the anti-tamper by putting one of these nuts behind the pump, in tight between pump and engine, so that its impossible to get to.

 

..............Dave

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On 23/07/2020 at 00:31, dmr said:

Its very difficult, especially when you live in such a small place. Its often cheaper to get a selection of 100 copper washers than 5 of the size that you need, and its hard to throw brand new stuff away. I had to get a whole set of 5 sided Allen keys and I'm only ever going to use one of them. Could we turn the rest into some sort of art 🙂?

 

There's a good tool stall in Todmorden Thursday market so I try to get unusual stuff there, but he don't have 5 sided Allen keys. Did get some funny size spanners though.

 

.................Dave

Sell your excess ones to him😀

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