NB Esk Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Could anyone confirm what the BT (or BOT) stands for, as seen on the side of a BACAT barge. Assuming the horizontal bar is a load line but what's the lettering? Not really right for British Transport and too late anyway. Board of Trade? Like to find out, thanks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Ballast Tank level line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebe Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 My fading understanding is that the mark you refer to is the mark of the 'classification society' that inspects and certifies the vessel for use. The round mark with L and R either side would be LLoyds Register, B an V either side Bureau Veritas etc.. Could be a Dutch or Scandnavian society 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 When they were working who was responsible for Plimsoll/load lines? I have a feeling it maywell have been the Board of Trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Tony Brooks said: When they were working who was responsible for Plimsoll/load lines? I have a feeling it maywell have been the Board of Trade. Yes it was. Took some finding in an old book as it's been obsolete for years! https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=w-s8AAAAIAAJ&lpg=PA41&ots=g2zflnA7xT&dq=classification society load line BT&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q=classification society load line BT&f=false 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 I also found this while looking: At Swinton in 2005 were these two 'boxy' looking tugs, FREIGHT TRADER & FREIGHT PIONEER, which have a rather sad history. http://www.deuchars.org.uk/hiwb/boatgallery/workboat.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Great answers, thanks to all. My Board of Trade suggestion was a guess but now looks good. Thanks again..... 1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said: I also found this while looking: At Swinton in 2005 were these two 'boxy' looking tugs, FREIGHT TRADER & FREIGHT PIONEER, which have a rather sad history. http://www.deuchars.org.uk/hiwb/boatgallery/workboat.htm Presumably long since cut up, that space now occupied by tug JUMSEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just for interest, Tug JUMSEY on the shelf.... And just a few months back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 The BT either side of the circle might have been the guide marker to make a hole for a''Bow thruster'', Only they realized at the the last minute that it was miles too high up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Never saw one loaded 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Bacat barges at Doncaster in 1975, and their size. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, bizzard said: The BT either side of the circle might have been the guide marker to make a hole for a''Bow thruster'', Only they realized at the the last minute that it was miles too high up. I thought when they changed their minds about bowthrusters they crossed out the circle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 BACAT on the Sheffield & South Yorkshire, I believe- can somebody confirm This is from the RCHS Hugh Compton Collection ref 41156 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Thanks Heartland, that's an image I haven't seen before. Really interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRP Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 24/08/2019 at 16:18, NB Esk said: Just for interest, Tug JUMSEY on the shelf.... And just a few months back... Sad pictures of what many will remember as Geoff Wheat's boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted August 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 7 hours ago, DRP said: Sad pictures of what many will remember as Geoff Wheat's boat. Indeed, one of the finest formed hulls I've seen. Even though it's been overplated it's a work of art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebe Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Heartland said: BACAT on the Sheffield & South Yorkshire, I believe- can somebody confirm This is from the RCHS Hugh Compton Collection ref 41156 I'm high 90s percent certain that this is SSYN at Pastures Road Mexborough. The building on its own, with white gable end and sliding doors, was next to the old bridge on the Doncaster Road before various changes, including a higher bridge, were made when the navigation was enlarged in 1980s. The building used to be a tyre depot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 I’m passing along the S&SY now, have saved this photo to try and match a landmark, I’ve not seen these houses close to the canal, so will try with landmarks over the next couple of days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebe Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, PD1964 said: I’m passing along the S&SY now, have saved this photo to try and match a landmark, I’ve not seen these houses close to the canal, so will try with landmarks over the next couple of days. Thanks for checking my memory. The houses gradually curve away from the canal. Remember the canal was changed extensivlyin 1980/81, widened, banks piled and some straightening. The north bank now has a pub/hotel on it plus industrial buildings and caravan storage. The road beyond the row of houses now has modern housing on it. The big clue is the tyre depot building, still there and still doing car repairs. HS2 is planned to cross the canal at the point shown in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 I thought this may of been nearer to Kilnhurst looking how raised the banking is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Thinking Kilnhurst Wharf Road, the building left hand side far distance looks like the one still there next to the canal with “Jap-un-ease Spares” painted on the front. Edited August 29, 2019 by PD1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebe Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 I'll try to find a chance to drive down there tomorrow, it's not a business I know. I did commute sheffield to doncaster for 20 years and the trains used to run via the 'Great Central' on the canal/river bank through Kilnhurst. I do not recall a row of house like that. They were more in blocks. Plusthe pit buildings and yard, transport yards, and the Thomas Hill locl works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 I’ll pass by tomorrow, so will take photos to try to identify, It’s that building far distance left side with what looks like a square on top, maybe on Google earth?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Grebe said: I'll try to find a chance to drive down there tomorrow, it's not a business I know. I did commute sheffield to doncaster for 20 years and the trains used to run via the 'Great Central' on the canal/river bank through Kilnhurst. I do not recall a row of house like that. They were more in blocks. Plusthe pit buildings and yard, transport yards, and the Thomas Hill locl works. A link to an interesting old film of the S&SY http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/rotherham-seaport-town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Pastures Road, Mexborough works for me: https://tinyurl.com/y5bqossb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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