LadyG Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Nice pair of buffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Ah!!, At last, been waiting for this delivery, I have the teabags I now have the milk. Delivered by Express dairy in a Dinky electric float. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Expecting coach loads of visiters this evening, worst luck. coming by Dinky AEC duple and Brimtoy coaches. Edited December 16, 2018 by bizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter X Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Bizzard, if your coal is to the scale of the models, I wonder how they got such big lumps out of the mine. I suppose coal was brought out in those lift cages the men went up and down in, but they weren't that big were they? Help me out here, I'm from South London and we never had coal mines here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Oi! What about the Kent coalfield. (Further sarf than Sarf Lunnon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Peter X said: I'm from South London... Me too - Wimbledon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, WotEver said: Me too - Wimbledon. I'm not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tumshie said: I'm not You're a womble.....remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, rusty69 said: You're a womble.....remember Oh yeah - I remember member member that now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, rusty69 said: You're a womble.....remember They’re common... or something like that. 2 minutes ago, WotEver said: They’re common... or something like that. Yeah, I remember... “The Wombles of Wimbledon. Common are we. “ I think they learnt English from Yoda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Peter X said: Bizzard, if your coal is to the scale of the models, I wonder how they got such big lumps out of the mine. I suppose coal was brought out in those lift cages the men went up and down in, but they weren't that big were they? Help me out here, I'm from South London and we never had coal mines here. I know, it gave me a big problen lifting them off the lorry's and then far too big to get in the stove. Been hours breaking them up with nut crackers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter X Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 19 hours ago, Victor Vectis said: Oi! What about the Kent coalfield. (Further sarf than Sarf Lunnon) Miles away at the other end of Kent from me. Dig a hole where I am and you'd be going through a lot of heavy London clay, then further down chalk. 19 hours ago, WotEver said: They’re common... or something like that. Yeah, I remember... “The Wombles of Wimbledon. Common are we. “ I think they learnt English from Yoda. Wimbledon Common is a real thing, and is actually quite tidy and free of litter. If the wombles are real, maybe they'd fancy a day out in Croydon to clean up my street? 93 bus into Wimbledon then Tramlink; easy. From the way they move on the telly, I suspect they're like Daleks, not good with stairs, but I think Wimbledon station has step-free access so that's OK. 19 hours ago, bizzard said: I know, it gave me a big problen lifting them off the lorry's and then far too big to get in the stove. Been hours breaking them up with nut crackers. Do what the miners should have done for you at the coal face, drill them to split them up. I know this! I've seen miners working in films. It's a lot easier in the NBT, ours comes all nicely packed in bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter X Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 By the way, while I'm answering everything said in this topic, English people on here like Wales. It's got some canals you can get to from England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Peter X said: Wimbledon Common is a real thing... ... and it has a windmill. Or at least it did when I lived there, dunno if it’s still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 I am just old enough to remember the pit ponies, we used to get a few every year when they were on holiday, they were all black, they hauled little waggons on rails, and I suppose they met trains which must have gone underground a little way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, LadyG said: I am just old enough to remember the pit ponies, we used to get a few every year when they were on holiday, they were all black, they hauled little waggons on rails, and I suppose they met trains which must have gone underground a little way. Lol, they would be all black..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) You have got me wondering now. I don't think the overground trains went underground to meet the pony trains. In deep mines this would have been virtually impossible. Whether the underground lines sloped up to the surface (it would have to be a very long slope in some places) or whether the coal from the pony trains was transferred to some type of lift or conveyor belt to get it to the surface, I'm not sure. There were miners in my family, but none is still alive for me to ask them. Edited December 18, 2018 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, LadyG said: I am just old enough to remember the pit ponies, we used to get a few every year when they were on holiday, they were all black, they hauled little waggons on rails, and I suppose they met trains which must have gone underground a little way. No, they dragged the drams to the cage bottom, from where the drams were hauled to the surface in the lifts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, LadyG said: I am just old enough to remember the pit ponies, we used to get a few every year when they were on holiday, they were all black, they hauled little waggons on rails, and I suppose they met trains which must have gone underground a little way. Little wagons on rails like this maybe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Graham Davis said: No, they dragged the drams to the cage bottom, from where the drams were hauled to the surface in the lifts. As I suspected. Thank you, Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Athy said: You have got me wondering now. I don't think the overground trains went underground to meet the pony trains. In deep mines this would have been virtually impossible. Whether the underground lines sloped up to the surface (it would have to be a very long slope in some places) or whether the coal from the pony trains was transferred to some type of lift of conveyor belt to get it to the surface, I'm not sure. There were miners in my family, but none is still alive for me to ask them. You could ask me, I'm still alive, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Athy said: You have got me wondering now. I don't think the overground trains went underground to meet the pony trains. In deep mines this would have been virtually impossible. Whether the underground lines sloped up to the surface (it would have to be a very long slope in some places) or whether the coal from the pony trains was transferred to some type of lift of conveyor belt to get it to the surface, I'm not sure. There were miners in my family, but none is still alive for me to ask them. Depends whether it was "shaft" pit or an "adit/level" pit. Shaft pits obviously had a vertical shaft from the surface down to the coal seams, so the ponies would drag the drams along underground lines to the shaft bottom, where the drams would be pushed into the cages and lifted to the surface. Those are the mines with the tall steel winding gear above them, typically seen in the Rhondda Valleys. Adit/level mines have tunnels that are not vertical but go either into the side of a hill or slope down towards the seams. The slopes can be quite steep. Sometimes the ponies might pull the drams out of the mine but if the level was steep often they had a winch to pull them to the surface. Many of the mines in the Forest of Dean are adit/levels. EDIT. Drams are what we from South Wales called the wagons. Other regional names may apply. Edited December 18, 2018 by Graham Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, Graham Davis said: . EDIT. Drams are what we from South Wales called the wagons. Other regional names may apply. Pretty sure "dram" has a totally different meaning in Scotland. ? Ponies wouldn't have got a look in. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 59 minutes ago, NB Esk said: You could ask me, I'm still alive, lol... Indeed, Mr. Besk, and thank you, but I don't think we're family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, NB Esk said: I'm still alive, lol... Awfully glad to hear that. ? On reading about the pit ponies I went off for a look for some photos on the web, The b&w is a lovely one but the colour one is really interesting - it's in Wales (seemingly) and it's of a pony called Sultan. Edited December 18, 2018 by Tumshie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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