mross Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, WotEver said: So don't tell me they don't work in distributing the warmth. THEY DON'T WORK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just now, mross said: THEY DON'T WORK! Are you getting a bit shouty Mr Oss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Not even downwards? All these people can't be wrong smelly If I knew how to id set an opinion poll up to quantify the placebo effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, rusty69 said: Are you getting a bit shouty Mr Oss? Pardon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, mross said: THEY DON'T WORK! Hey, I never said that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, mross said: You need a punka wallah! Ecofan Believers are usually Pukka Wallies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, cereal tiller said: Ecofan Believers are usually Pukka Wallies! ....... Who like pies and gherkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mrsmelly said: If I knew how to I'd set an opinion poll up to quantify the placebo effect You'd need a double-blind trial using a fan that really did work (such as the 2ft, 100W electric one mentioned earlier), which means the subject would have to be wearing a blindfold and earplugs, otherwise he would be able to hear that the Ecofraud was doing nothing! Also you would need to question all the test subjects first: "Are you a true believer or a heathen skeptic?" Edited November 30, 2017 by Machpoint005 see addition 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, mross said: No, its to do with the available power; you can add blades to an ecofan and it won't improve performance. Nor will bigger blades. I am fully aware of that, what I would like is something bigger than an eco but a lot smaller than a ceiling fan that also uses less power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, rusty69 said: ....... Who like pies and gherkins Incorrect. I hate gherkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Machpoint005 said: You'd need a double-blind trial using a fan that really did work (such as the 2ft, 100W electric one mentioned earlier), which means the subject would have to be wearing a blindfold and earplugs, otherwise he would be able to hear that the Ecofraud was doing nothing! Also you would need to question all the test subjects first: "Are you a true believer or a heathen skeptic?" I tried really hard today to do a triple blind trial today including me (a muppet), SWMBO ( who doesn't like the Muppets) and a random cat kidnapped from the towpath. Unfortunately it didn't work as it was too cold so we had to have my Ecofraud on all the time, therefore invalidating the results. I will try and repeat this in April. Also the cat ran off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Rose Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 OK folks, thanks for all of the above. I'm still a bit unsure though, should I get one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lily Rose said: OK folks, thanks for all of the above. I'm still a bit unsure though, should I get one? A cat? No they like the heat too much so you will need to buy an EcoFraud as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dr Bob said: A cat? No they like the heat too much so you will need to buy an EcoFraud as well. I reckon our cats are more effective than an ecofan. They sit by fire til boiling hot, then go down the other end of the boat and shit on the floor, thus distributing the heat Edited December 1, 2017 by rusty69 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, rusty69 said: I reckon our cats are more effective than an ecofan. They sit by fire til boiling hot, then go down the other end of the boat and shit on the floor, thus distributing the heat Many years ago we were sitting in the lounge at home with the gas fire on, watching telly. SWMBO says to me “Can you smell burning?” After we had wandered around trying to find the cause the cat rose from its cushion in front of the fire and turned around. Its fur was singed all down the one side! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, WotEver said: Many years ago we were sitting in the lounge at home with the gas fire on, watching telly. SWMBO says to me “Can you smell burning?” After we had wandered around trying to find the cause the cat rose from its cushion in front of the fire and turned around. Its fur was singed all down the one side! One of ours can often be seen licking the glass of the hot morso. Stupid animals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 55 minutes ago, rusty69 said: I reckon our cats are more effective than an ecofan. They sit by fire til boiling hot, then go down the other end of the boat and shit on the floor, thus distributing the heat Bloody hell that's a big Eco fan sat at the side of the stove!! don't suppose you dare but it on top or the heat generated would be devastating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Bloody hell that's a big Eco fan sat at the side of the stove!! don't suppose you dare but it on top or the heat generated would be devastating? We only fire that up when it gets below -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, rusty69 said: We only fire that up when it gets below -10 I thought it was a Back wheel from Rusty's Yamaha Fizzy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, cereal tiller said: I thought it was a Back wheel from Rusty's Yamaha Fizzy? Its the steering wheel off the starship Enterprise. I got it from Jean Luc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Its the steering wheel off the starship Enterprise. I got it from Jean Luc. Jean Luc ,is that the Bloke that always had a Blocked nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, cereal tiller said: Jean Luc ,is that the Bloke that always had a Blocked nose? Yeah, that's him. Monsieur Pic-hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 17 hours ago, mross said: No, its to do with the available power; you can add blades to an ecofan and it won't improve performance. Nor will bigger blades. I am fully aware of that, what I would like is something bigger than an eco but a lot smaller than a ceiling fan that also uses less power. I think its a balance between moving air and causing a draught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Thinking about it a bit more I suspect a Spaniel dog constantly being fed tip bits so that it wagged its tail would be just as effective, but I don't have a dog. I would love to see a real test, like a sealed room with lots of temperature probes and a known heat source run with and without a fan with an observation window and infrared camera, but I don't expect that will ever happen. Just walking about in a boat causes the air to move around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
system 4-50 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Its the movement of the eyebrows when looking up to admire/check on/worship the Ecofan that is responsible for 50% of the air movement credited to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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