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Lily Rose

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    Lily Rose
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  1. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Fair enough, they are not suitable for everyone. But... Official government statistics say only 4% of journeys are over 25 miles and only 2% are over 50 miles. Those over the real world range of newer EVs (say 150 miles) must surely be a much lower % than 2%. That still does not mean they are right for everyone but it probably means they would be right for a hell of a lot of people if they weren't so expensive. And probably right for even more people as the charging infrastructure improves (which is happening every month) even if they are unable to charge at home. Individual examples from people showing EVs are not right for them only go to show that they are not right for them, not that they will not be right, now or in the future, for other people depending on their circumstances.
  2. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    FFS, I said MOST people, not YOU! Just check out the statistics on journey lengths. Also, no-one is saying EVs are right for everyone. Quite obviously it depends on personal circumstances. Given this sort of response I think I've had enough of this thread now
  3. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Quite an interesting thread on SpeakEV, particularly post #11. https://www.speakev.com/threads/rebutting-the-nay-sayers.134272/ I have no idea how fair this is. I don't own an EV (yet) and recently decided not to buy one just yet but I think it highly likely I will in 1 or 2 years time.
  4. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    You could be right. On the other hand, when I replaced 27W filament bulbs on my boat with 1 and 2W LEDs I saved an awful lot of battery consumption with no reduction in light levels. I'm not sure why that would be different with headlights. Presumably manufacturers go to the extra expense of installing LEDs in order to achieve more energy efficient lighting. They certainly cut corners in many areas of the interior to keep costs down so surely they would do the same with lighting if it did not offer significant benefits.
  5. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Also... when you get away from the house in the morning the car will already be fully warmed up, demisted, defrosted etc because you can remotely set it to put the heating on as long in advance as you wish and without using any battery power at all - assuming the car was plugged in overnight. I assume (I haven't checked) that EVs have LED bulbs so lights won't be a problem. Many have heatpumps that recover heat, for example from the batteries, that would otherwise be lost. Whilst going up hill uses more battery power a good proportion of that goes back in when (eventually) you go downhill. I've not heard anyone complaining that their EV struggles to get uphill. I suspect the way EVs work means they can get uphill just as easily, if not more so, than their ICE counterparts.
  6. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Using the brakes is not a problem, there is much energy put back into the batteries from regenerative breaking systems, especially going down hill. The newer Nissan Leaf can even be driven using one pedal avoiding using the brake pedal at all except in an emergency. It's even smart enough to know when to put the brake lights on based on how much you have reduced the pressure on the accelerator pedal.
  7. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Probably a question better asked here... https://www.speakev.com There are plenty of posts there where owners of various models report on their own experiences of, amongst other things, long journeys, charging times etc.
  8. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Quite well known in EV circles as Rapidgate and caused by Nissan's refusal (so far) to include active battery cooling, as used by other manufacturers. I believe they have mitigated the effect somewhat using software changes so that charge rate throttling doesn't affect their cars as much unless they have already had two rapid charges in 24 hours and/or have become hot enough to seriously affect battery life. It is probably reason enough to hesitate over buying a Leaf if you will be doing regular very long journeys.
  9. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    No doubt, and then millions of motorists who aren't. I'm not suggesting, and I doubt if anyone is, that EVs are the answer for everyone. On the subject of journey length, this comes from an article in the Guardian in 2017... "While that may not sound much compared to the 400-500 miles or more that a petrol or diesel car can manage before refilling, most car journeys in the UK would easily be accomplished in an electric car. Half of journeys are one to five miles; 38% are for five to 25 miles and only 2% are for 50 miles and more." If it's only 2% for over 50 miles it must be a lot less for over 200 so I think the word rare is justified. full article here. .. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/26/electric-cars-everything-you-need-to-know
  10. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Typically 80% I believe as charging slows down dramatically above that. Clearly EVs are not yet the solution for ALL journeys but I would think journeys over, say, 250 miles are pretty rare for most people. It probably won't be too long before real world ranges of 200 miles or more are common for newer EVs.
  11. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Rapid charger times at motorway services (for example) are more like 30 to 60 minutes.
  12. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    I'f agree with much of that which is why I'm fine continuing with my 13 yo diesel C-Max for a while longer. Hopefully when I get an EV someone else will continue running my diesel for a bit longer to gain more benefit from the sunk (environmental) costs. On networks (UK) the build is happening anyway so might as well use it. Most car journeys are under 20 miles apparently so most charging will be at home and overnight. Our marina now has a chargepoint as well! Regards CO2, the percentage of UK energy is, I think, now north of 30%, maybe even 40%, and increasing. Bring nuclear into the equation (no idea what CO2 that produces) and it's over 50%. EVs benefit from that, ICE vehicles don't.
  13. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    I've spent lots of time on SpeakEV, and quite a bit on YouTube (Electric Vehicle Man and Fully Charged). Conclusion... I don't much like the look of the Leaf 30 (the 40 looks fine but still too new/expensive) and the range is a bit on the low side for my liking. Prices are ok except that they don't seem to have fallen during the last year as 2 year old models have turned into 3 year old models. Great if you've already got one, not so great if you're looking for one. I will get an EV, it just (probably) won't be this year.
  14. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Looks like I inadvertantly left out the word "significant", I didn't really mean ALL sources. By the time we reduce global CO2 emissions, which are still rising, it's probably going to be too late. We're doomed!
  15. Lily Rose

    Diesel Vs Electric

    Whenever anyone mentions something that is (partly) to blame for producing pollution/greenhouse gases someone will come along to defend it as being only x% of the total and/or to blame something else. Surely what's needed is a reduction from all sources, not just the worst one (whatever that is).
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