Warning of aggressive dog nr Calf Heath

[Loafer]

If the police don't deal with things properly it leaves an opening for rough justice . Not recommended and with plenty of scope for error

 

According to the law they ARE dealing with it properly, I gather. The additional paragraphs in dog laws about whether one dog biting another is an offence, is to be determined by a court, deciding that the dog was dangerously out of control. That bit is up to me to pursue privately, and I'd have to know who he is. I couldn't afford all that.

[Starcoaster]

If you did know who he is, your insurers would help with that, and recovering their costs from him too.

If, as you say, you were of a mind to go through it all-as I may well be about to myself, unfortunately.

[Rufford]

I think the offending dog is a boat dog. I don't seem to recall a regular gsd walker around Calf Heath.

i live just up the road and go along that section on my bike in the winter / with my dog or fishing with the kids, if i come across him i will let you know - and thanks for the info on the area wouldnt like to think what i would do if his dog had my lad,

I think I have just figured out who you are!

[tillergirl]

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview

 

There are dog control laws now

[MHS]

 

According to the law they ARE dealing with it properly, I gather. The additional paragraphs in dog laws about whether one dog biting another is an offence, is to be determined by a court, deciding that the dog was dangerously out of control. That bit is up to me to pursue privately, and I'd have to know who he is. I couldn't afford all that.

Buy a sheep.

Walk it with your own dog.

If they get attacked, you can legitimately shoot the aggressive dog for sheep worrying. Sorted.

[Starcoaster]

When a dog was chasing my parent's cat (to compound this, walked off lead down their private lane that had no legal right of way) they got some ducks, and some signs.

My Da also used to make a point of cleaning his Beretta in their big bay window.

[NigelMoore]

ETA: 3'had's in the same sentence. That can't be right.

 

I have never forgotten one sentence read back in the last century, illustrating uses of “had” in one sentence. Two boys in English class were describing the same scene.

 

John, where Jack had had “had”, had had “had had”; “had had” had had the teacher’s approval.

[blackrose]

Are all 3 of these dog attack/aggressive dog threads really about the same incident? While my sympathies do go out to the victim and his/her owner, I can't help thinking that this sort of thing probably happens every day amongst dog walkers on Britain's parks and commons and one thread on this topic would have sufficed.

Edited November 4, 2015 by blackrose

[James T Berk]

Are all 3 of these dog attack/aggressive dog threads really about the same incident? While my sympathies do go out to the victim and his/her owner, I can't help thinking that this sort of thing probably happens every day amongst dog walkers on Britain's parks and commons and one thread on this topic would have sufficed.

You seem to think that if the incident is commonplace it makes it trivial where I must say that if dog attacks are so commonplace it would represent a national scandal for those of us entrusted with home deliveries

[granddad]

was your dog injured? what did the vet say?

ken

[Mrs Trackman]

Are all 3 of these dog attack/aggressive dog threads really about the same incident? While my sympathies do go out to the victim and his/her owner, I can't help thinking that this sort of thing probably happens every day amongst dog walkers on Britain's parks and commons and one thread on this topic would have sufficed.

 

A brave post. I note that the general tone on here is loose dogs on tow paths are just fine. I've lost count of the number of dogs that have rushed up to me barking. When an owner is around they usually say something along the lines of, 'he's just being friendly'. My question is, how am I to know this in advance? I find it a scary experience, not helped by reading about such attacks.

However woe betide anyone who cycles along a tow path. We are deemed the dangerous ones.

[Jerra]

Are all 3 of these dog attack/aggressive dog threads really about the same incident? While my sympathies do go out to the victim and his/her owner, I can't help thinking that this sort of thing probably happens every day amongst dog walkers on Britain's parks and commons and one thread on this topic would have sufficed.

I think you will find the three threads are two attacks and one warning people of where the aggressive dog was.

 

If these attacks are commonplace it is time something was done Burglary can be described as common place but nobody would dream of playing it down as you seem to be trying to do with your post about dog attacks.

 

As far as I am concerned the more publicity and fuss that can be created about such attacks the better, then some thing might be done either by owners or the authorities.

[Loafer]

One thread was asking for advice. The second thread was a general warning to others.

 

The third thread, as I have already apologised for in the same thread, was the only solution I could find to get Starcoaster a photo of the vet's work. It was the only occasion where I saw the 'upload files' option.

 

I am never interested in attention-getting. I was furious, with a very upset wife and a traumatised dog. It's all on the mend now.

 

Thank you all!

[Nightwatch]

There's always someone with an opinion.

[Loafer]

There's always someone with an opinion.

And they're entitled to them! No worries. It'll all die down now and I'll be back in hibernation soon! He's at the vet right now hopefully having his drainpipe removed.

 

I'm delighted with the responses on here, on all 3 threads. To some people, including us, a dog (OR a cat) is as important as children are to others. It's just so frustrating when 'They' won't do anything about it, not even noting my complaint. I just pray that this GSD who attacked my dog doesn't get a taste for it.

 

Best wishes all.

[Guest]

Are all 3 of these dog attack/aggressive dog threads really about the same incident? While my sympathies do go out to the victim and his/her owner, I can't help thinking that this sort of thing probably happens every day amongst dog walkers on Britain's parks and commons and one thread on this topic would have sufficed.

 

Actually I don't think it is as common as you are suggesting.

 

We are now on our third dog in 25 years which were/are walked every day.

 

We have only had one incident at home (and it was quite recently) when a GSD off a lead came up and started worrying (nibbling at his legs and back end) our JRT who was on a lead. Our JRT engaged in quite a bit of (aggressive I admit) barking in his defence and actually frightened the GSD off. The owner remonstrated with me about my dog barking aggressively at his until I pointed out that his dog was not under any sort of control and perhaps if it hadn't come over and started nibbling at my dog he wouldn't have needed to defend himself (which he did quite admirably).

 

He strolled off with his tail between his legs (the owner that is).

 

And once in France our previous JRT was grabbed by the neck by a GSD owned by a restaurant owners dog at a place we were about to eat at. To my astonishment Jan (on instinct) immediately grabbed the jaw of the GSD and prised it apart to release him. Luckily Jan intervened before any skin was actually punctured.

 

Rightly or wrongly I was ready to kick the GSD (hard) in the ribs but Jan did the one thing they say you should never do before I even got the chance. It too scampered off.

 

So two incidents I can think of in 25 years neither of which resulted in injuries luckily, I actually think incidents like the one experienced by Loafer are relatively rare, and also think the issue of the number of threads about it is pretty materless TBH.

Edited November 4, 2015 by MJG

[alan_fincher]

Are all 3 of these dog attack/aggressive dog threads really about the same incident? While my sympathies do go out to the victim and his/her owner, I can't help thinking that this sort of thing probably happens every day amongst dog walkers on Britain's parks and commons and one thread on this topic would have sufficed.

 

As one forum member had had their cat mauled to death by a dog, and at least one other has had a dog very seriously injured by another to the extent that it was touch and go for quite a while, I think the appalling behaviour of some dog owners, and their obvious inability to keep dangerous dogs under proper control, merits as many threads as it takes to get the message across.

 

Anything that warns me of a known problem dog in a particular area is much appreciated.

 

As Mrs Trackman says we are constantly inundated by countless threads about Lycra louts on cycles, and nobody seems to complain how many of these are raised. To me uncontrolled dogs seem to present a greater risk overall than tow-path cyclist do.

 

If a dog will openly attack a cat or another dog, and administer life threatening injuries, (or worse), how can we possibly know it will not attack a boater or member of the public?

[Barry]

 

As one forum member had had their cat mauled to death by a dog, and at least one other has had a dog very seriously injured by another to the extent that it was touch and go for quite a while, I think the appalling behaviour of some dog owners, and their obvious inability to keep dangerous dogs under proper control, merits as many threads as it takes to get the message across.

 

Anything that warns me of a known problem dog in a particular area is much appreciated.

 

As Mrs Trackman says we are constantly inundated by countless threads about Lycra louts on cycles, and nobody seems to complain how many of these are raised. To me uncontrolled dogs seem to present a greater risk overall than tow-path cyclist do.

 

If a dog will openly attack a cat or another dog, and administer life threatening injuries, (or worse), how can we possibly know it will not attack a boater or member of the public?

 

Well said sir

[Nightwatch]

As soon as we realised George the Staffie was periodically prone to leap onto another dog, we took advice from various sources (spell) including members on here, and the only way to be sure he wouldn't do it again was to have him, sadly, put to sleep.

 

I wouldn't wish this upon anyone, but as a dog owner you have to make difficult decisions. As there were no indication, to us, that he was about to charge, there was no training that he could have received to guarantee he wouldn't do it.

 

Alan's take on it is spot on.

 

Martyn

[Catrin]

As soon as we realised George the Staffie was periodically prone to leap onto another dog, we took advice from various sources (spell) including members on here, and the only way to be sure he wouldn't do it again was to have him, sadly, put to sleep.

 

I wouldn't wish this upon anyone, but as a dog owner you have to make difficult decisions. As there were no indication, to us, that he was about to charge, there was no training that he could have received to guarantee he wouldn't do it.

 

Alan's take on it is spot on.

 

Martyn

It is a very hard decision to make. It's one that we had to make with our former dog, Charlie, who developed cocker rage, and would attack suddenly without warning, and without even knowing that he was doing it ('like an epileptic fit' is how our vet described it). There was no question, once the vet explained what the situation was, but it didn't mean that we didn't find it incredibly difficult.

[Nightwatch]

We are very much aware that our two new terrorists run towards people and dogs, and we are aware that it is un-nerving to be rushed at by two, be it small, Jack Russell's, we are finding it hard to break them out of it. They are not,as yet, 12 months old.

 

We continue to socialise them with both dogs and humans, and recall is improving. Not yet perfection.

 

Martyn

[Barry]

We are very much aware that our two new terrorists run towards people and dogs, and we are aware that it is un-nerving to be rushed at by two, be it small, Jack Russell's, we are finding it hard to break them out of it. They are not,as yet, 12 months old.

 

We continue to socialise them with both dogs and humans, and recall is improving. Not yet perfection.

 

Martyn

 

Yeah but they're Jacks

 

I've heard it said that you don't command a Jack Russell - you can only negotiate

[Loafer]

 

Actually I don't think it is as common as you are suggesting.

 

Agreed. This is our first time, after 5 years of 3 walks per day, wherever we are. Never even thought about it before. Now we can't think of anything else!

[Starcoaster]

Indeed, the level of vigilance that I am operating under at the moment is apt to take years off my life.

When all of your worst fears come true, it's hard not to be extremely paranoid in the future.

I think that dog attacks are much more common than many people think-I suspect a lot go unreported, and when reporting them gets the flat "nope" response Loafer get, it is hard to get a definitive idea of the true number, and I think that the true figures are being heavily massaged as a result.

 

Some interesting reading:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/28/hospital-admissions-for-injuries-caused-by-dogs-up-76-over-past-10-years

This article shows that there were over 7,000 hospital admissions as a result of dog attacks on people last year, compared to 4,000 a decade ago.

That's just attacks on people, and just those serious enough to warrant hospital care-no mention of those unreported, not serious enough to need hospital treatment, and of course, no data on dog on dog or dog on other pet attacks.

[Jerra]

we are aware that it is un-nerving to be rushed at by two, be it small, Jack Russell's,

I am sorry to say this and I expect it will go down with some like the proverbial lead balloon, but your dogs are dangerously out of control

 

Having been bitten as a small child that scenario would make me fearful that I was going to be bitten again therefore they are dangerously out of control.

 

Incidentally I don't find referring to them as terrorists helpful as to me that is exactly what they would be. (I know you were using the term in a joking affectionate way but they would still cause terror in me.)