churchward Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 The snag may be of course that it is not a hieroglyph representation of an statement in english but a true old egyptian phrase. If the later we could be here some time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycloud Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) (ANKH (n kh)) u/w (d) a ? ( s n b ) I'm going with the idea that it is a motto or sentiment, rather than a name. Given the above I can't help thinking it's a funny way of writing "U W@nker" Sorry - couldn't help it Edited January 9, 2013 by Psycloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I wonder if our new colleague Dabowman has friends in the Egyptology department of his/ her university. They could inform us p.d.q. In several years of inflicting myself on these forums, this is the first time I can remember a question stumping absolutely everybody. We have asked things about many walks of life and somebody has always come up trumps. So well done, that boat owner. Come to think of it, does anybody moor near him? Could you nip round and ask kim, please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catrin Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 The snag may be of course that it is not a hieroglyph representation of an statement in english but a true old egyptian phrase. If the later we could be here some time! Yes, I think it is in Egyptian - if the letters 'snb' do mean 'health/healthy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchward Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I've got to go and work, but I've got this: (ANKH (n kh)) u/w (d) a ? ( s n b ) Things are bracketed because N and KH often go with the ankh. The D is a variant and snb can mean healthy, or as part of a personal name ('seneb', no vowels, like Hebrew, or shorthand). No cartouche, so probably not a person's name. I'm going with the idea that it is a motto or sentiment, rather than a name. I have no idea presently what the symbol next to the left of the "S" or folded cloth. I can't find anything similar only a symbol that lies flat rather than vertical and is not quite the same. The symbol I am thinking of is a hieroglyph for a combination of letters and mean "adj" but doesn't look right. before the expanded picy I thought it may have been a tewisted flax which is an "H" but now I can see it is nothing like. Edited January 9, 2013 by churchward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catrin Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I have no idea presently what the symbol next to the left of the "S" or folded cloth. I can't find anything similar only a symbol that lies flat rather than vertical and is not quite the same. The symbol I am thinking of is a hieroglyph for a combination of letters and mean "adj" but doesn't look right. before the expanded picy I thought it may have been a tewisted flax which is an "H" but now I can see it is nothing like. I've found a couple of images which show something similar, although with flat rather than rounded ends. Unfortunately, they only give a translation of the whole inscription, not the individual parts. I'm completely stumped - and I think that the inscription is probably in Egyptian anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TheBitch' Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Could be a reference to Disc World and Ankh-Morpork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Could the pylon thingy be a mortar and pestle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catrin Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think that it is an 'alternative' version of D as shown HERE. It may be a mortar and pestle, but what sound does it represent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinch Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 just to add to the confusion I have found a reference to the first 2 symbols together meaning Life or Live so maybe that helps or not!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchward Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 just to add to the confusion I have found a reference to the first 2 symbols together meaning Life or Live so maybe that helps or not!! lol Yes the first symbol is an Ankh or "key of life" but we know about those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 So which conundrum is going to get fully solved first? The "What do these hieroglyphs mean?" one, or the "WTF are these strange objects found in a friend's attic?" one? I think my money is on this thread. Not necessarily because it has already run longer, but possibly because someone may actually find someone who knows, the boat presumably not being that old, and the owner must exist. Without more info, the attic find looks a lot less likely to turn up whoever put them in the attic in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatingbiker Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 call out for Indiana Jones ! Ok I'm getting my coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 So which conundrum is going to get fully solved first? The "What do these hieroglyphs mean?" one, or the "WTF are these strange objects found in a friend's attic?" one? I think my money is on this thread. I disagree. In the Archaeological Museum in Athens there is a lump of encrusted bronze rescued from a first century BC shipwreck off the coast of Greece. After decades of intense study it turns out to be a highly sophisticated computer. The story of its reconstruction is here. link Another puzzle from the ancient world which has eluded scholars and brought out the cranks in droves is the Phaestos Disk. One of the less lunatic "interpretations" is here: link . So if it's a race between CWDF amateurs elucidating an artefact or deciphering an inscription, my money's on the former. Usually in cases of doubt archaeologists assume that a mysterious text or object has religious significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 After decades of intense study it turns out to be a highly sophisticated computer. Presumably it won't belong before Apple start legal proceedings against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 So if it's a race between CWDF amateurs elucidating an artefact or deciphering an inscription, my money's on the former. Usually in cases of doubt archaeologists assume that a mysterious text or object has religious significance. Yes, I guess you could be right. Also, (and I'm not sure if has already been said), based on past experience of some people's attempts to spell something meaningful or witty out in old languages, this may actually mean nothing at all, and even if all the symbols can be individually identified, the concatenation of them all together may just be meaningless gibberish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It actually says "If you can read this sign you are too close to my chariot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayalld Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 So which conundrum is going to get fully solved first? The "What do these hieroglyphs mean?" one, or the "WTF are these strange objects found in a friend's attic?" one? I think my money is on this thread. And I think you might win, because I think I've cracked it. There was always a suspicion that it was a saying, with the Ankh at the beginning, and Catrin's suggestion of Seneb (health) at the end strongly suggested a 3 word epithet. So, they actually mean; Life, Prosperity, Health. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh_wedja_seneb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Life: Prosperity: Health: I'm convinced Richard MORE: Aaaarrrghhhh! they are all separate groups of hieroglyphs!! Edited January 10, 2013 by RLWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well done Mr Mayall, that certainly seems to be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well done Mr M. That's a relief: what with those bird symbols, I was afriad that the boat was going to be called 'Kingfisher'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Life: Prosperity: Health: I'm convinced Richard MORE: Aaaarrrghhhh! they are all separate groups of hieroglyphs!! Just get on with the hand grenade/parachute grenade/rope or twine making thingy/something from the cotton trade thread, Richard - that must be where your real skills lie. (Had wondered if you might identify them as part of Sickle's gear operating mechanism.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoldy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 And I think you might win, because I think I've cracked it. There was always a suspicion that it was a saying, with the Ankh at the beginning, and Catrin's suggestion of Seneb (health) at the end strongly suggested a 3 word epithet. So, they actually mean; Life, Prosperity, Health. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh_wedja_seneb Having looked at the Wiki link, I'm convinced, too! Now, back to those Ann Summers/stick grenade thingmys................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 And I think you might win, because I think I've cracked it. There was always a suspicion that it was a saying, with the Ankh at the beginning, and Catrin's suggestion of Seneb (health) at the end strongly suggested a 3 word epithet. So, they actually mean; Life, Prosperity, Health. http://en.wikipedia....nkh_wedja_seneb Well done Dave have a greenie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well done Mr Mayall, that certainly seems to be the answer. Nah, The foot on that Wiki page is heading off in the wrong direction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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